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    1. Michael H (Dr H)‏ @mrhunsaker 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @deevybee @ProfData

      Usually python, applescript, or visual basic. Hilarious how many folks will trust automating these progresses without manually checking the data over tho. Same problem exists

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    2. Bradley Love‏ @ProfData 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @mrhunsaker @deevybee

      Trying to bite my tongue, but there is a difference between data entry and data analysis. Also, please stop with the straw men. This thread was not intended to cover this, but it's not a great idea to use a full-blown spreadsheet for data entry.

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    3. Bradley Love‏ @ProfData 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @ProfData @mrhunsaker @deevybee

      I think half the internet is now discussing this point. For the point I raised, It's a lost cause if I have to defend using well-commented version controlled scripts for data analysis. Senior folks should be pushing students to adopt these best practices.

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    4. Michael H (Dr H)‏ @mrhunsaker 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @ProfData @deevybee

      True. If manual observation of computational results is included I agree. But most trust the code to put the right thing in the right place. Open .CSV with Excel, visually confirm okay. Then import CSV into R or SAS

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    5. Mike Spencer‏ @MikeRSpencer 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @mrhunsaker @ProfData @deevybee

      Why open in excel? Check data class of columns, look at min/max values, are factors expected, plot variables to sense check. All of these steps are better done in #opensource software. #opensource helps make our work reproducible and with code we can reuse these data checks.

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    6. Michael H (Dr H)‏ @mrhunsaker 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @MikeRSpencer @ProfData @deevybee

      Ffs. Open in Gnumeric then. Or Deducer in R. Wrote your own visualization software. Open source is irrelevqnt here. I say LOOK at the data because if EVERY DATA POINT is not correct then you have to start the process again.

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    7. Mike Spencer‏ @MikeRSpencer 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @mrhunsaker @ProfData @deevybee

      I can dream of every data point being correct, but I can't imagine it ever happening.

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    8. Michael H (Dr H)‏ @mrhunsaker 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @MikeRSpencer @ProfData @deevybee

      Then every analysis you ever performed is fraudulent and you should stop now. I'm not kidding. It is unethical to report analyses of data that are incorrect - when you have the means to ensure correctness.

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    9. Mike Spencer‏ @MikeRSpencer 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @mrhunsaker @ProfData @deevybee

      That seems a naïve view. When you expect errors you can plan for them. I have a dataset with 300 million cattle movements, self recorded by farmers. Farmers are humans so some errors will be there. Do you suggest I: a) abandon this dataset b) check each entry c) something else?

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    10. Michael H (Dr H)‏ @mrhunsaker 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @MikeRSpencer @ProfData @deevybee

      What I will not say is that your data are any more or less reliable because you don't use a spreadsheet.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @mrhunsaker @MikeRSpencer and

      Hmm, so it's about doing it without dependance on proprietary code and in a replicable way. It's a great mix of things that lead me to think it's better to use something that's not binary files and outside version control.

      11:46 AM - 20 Aug 2018
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