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    1. Mick Watson‏ @BioMickWatson 19 Aug 2018
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      I see Excel is being hated on again. To be honest, its quick visual sorting, filtering and graphing functions are exceptional. Fantastic for initial exploration of the data. I use it daily. Once I see the data, of course #rstats for serious graphs :)

      35 replies 43 retweets 359 likes
    2. Chris Cole‏ @drchriscole 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @BioMickWatson

      You're intentionally duplicating effort. Start with R and just continue. Instead you start with Excel and then redo it with R. Seems daft :)

      3 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    3.  🐸‏ @froggleston 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @drchriscole @BioMickWatson

      There's an important distinction between "seeing the data" (Excel is unarguably good at this) and "working with data" (Excel is unarguably poor at this).

      2 replies 4 retweets 7 likes
    4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @froggleston @drchriscole @BioMickWatson

      If limited to just "seeing" the contents I would argue that is fine, although you do not need Excel to do that. Very expensive and bloated for just looking at some columns. Can be done better with better/smaller software.

      2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
    5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @froggleston and

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Dorothy Bishop

      What people seem to do is ENTER the data in Excel. This is disturbing. Please do not do that.https://twitter.com/deevybee/status/1031151509965352960 …

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ added,

      Dorothy Bishop @deevybee
      Replying to @ProfData
      Aargh. Are you not aware that sometimes a human being needs to intervene to input data? Not all data comes from a 'data collection program'. Sorry, but I've had enough of being told what I know this morning and I am going back to my data analysis (in R).
      3 replies 2 retweets 0 likes
    6. Dorothy Bishop‏ @deevybee 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @froggleston and

      How should people do data entry? Assuming the data initially exists in some noncomputerised form?

      2 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @deevybee @froggleston and

      I don't know — but it worries me ppl use Excel. Many useful replies further down the thread. In my idea world, we would move away from MS products and we would also not use tools that are bloated for something as simple as just typing in values that could be stored as raw text.

      1 reply 2 retweets 3 likes
    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @deevybee and

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted  🐸

      Perhaps, see:https://twitter.com/froggleston/status/1031496591771951106 …

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ added,

       🐸 @froggleston
      Replying to @o_guest @realMingChia and 2 others
      Yes, it makes the most sense to teach that Excel is OK for producing tabular representations, and that there are bad ways of doing this, but if you need to do anything else, export to CSV: https://datacarpentry.org/spreadsheet-ecology-lesson/ …
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    9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @deevybee and

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Chris Cole

      Also see, refreshing recommendation:https://twitter.com/drchriscole/status/1031495590054711296?s=19 …

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ added,

      Chris Cole @drchriscole
      Replying to @realMingChia @BioMickWatson and 2 others
      I have used http://comma-chameleon.io/  for exactly this.
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @deevybee and

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Thiago Britto-Borges

      Another!https://twitter.com/tbrittoborges/status/1031501527482019841?s=19 …

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      Thiago Britto-Borges @tbrittoborges
      Replying to @drchriscole @realMingChia and 3 others
      I use sublime3 + advanced csv https://packagecontrol.io/packages/Advanced%20CSV …
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @deevybee and

      Last two are most definitely not spreadsheet software! 💖

      4:38 AM - 20 Aug 2018
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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @deevybee and

          Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Michael H (Dr H)

          Another recommendation:https://twitter.com/mrhunsaker/status/1031506310376841216?s=19 …

          Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ added,

          Michael H (Dr H) @mrhunsaker
          Replying to @o_guest @BioMickWatson and 2 others
          Gnumeric is much less buggy than GSheets. Also can use Deducer in R to give a spreqdsheet
          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @deevybee and

          Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted ODI Tech

          And more info here on chameleon:https://twitter.com/ODILabs/status/1031506383475290112?s=19 …

          Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ added,

          ODI Tech @ODILabs
          Replying to @drchriscole @froggleston and 5 others
          Hello! Comma Chameleon was/is a proof of concept, and has since been developed into a proper tool by our Australian Network, under another name: https://theodi.org.au/data-curator/  (note to self: really should update the CC homepage and github...)
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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @deevybee and

          Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Open Climate Data

          One more to think about:https://twitter.com/openclimatedata/status/1031522087901515776?s=19 …

          Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ added,

          Open Climate Data @openclimatedata
          Replying to @BioMickWatson @o_guest and 2 others
          Visidata? http://visidata.org/  Quite powerful command line tool ...
          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @deevybee and

          Should I write this up as a blog post? I'm just not sure because I don't do manually data entry almost ever so might not be best situated. At the same time there's pervasive bad practice... 🤔

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        6. Randy McIntosh‏ @ar0mcintosh 20 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @deevybee and

          I would support the blog 😊. You may want to invite commentary to cover more bases

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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