There's an important distinction between "seeing the data" (Excel is unarguably good at this) and "working with data" (Excel is unarguably poor at this).
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If limited to just "seeing" the contents I would argue that is fine, although you do not need Excel to do that. Very expensive and bloated for just looking at some columns. Can be done better with better/smaller software.
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Replying to @o_guest @froggleston and
Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Dorothy Bishop
What people seem to do is ENTER the data in Excel. This is disturbing. Please do not do that.https://twitter.com/deevybee/status/1031151509965352960 …
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Dorothy Bishop @deevybeeReplying to @ProfDataAargh. Are you not aware that sometimes a human being needs to intervene to input data? Not all data comes from a 'data collection program'. Sorry, but I've had enough of being told what I know this morning and I am going back to my data analysis (in R).3 replies 2 retweets 0 likes -
TBF the alternatives for human data entry are very limited. Even I'll admit Excel is good for that. Important to structure the data first.
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Even if Excel is known to mangle stuff and other less bloated and cheaper software does less of this?
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would love to hear suggestions - I think lots of people don't know about these
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I can't say with certainty what is better as a) I don't enter data manually (I think this is important experience-based knowledge) and b) a lot of the issues highlighted by people are input-specific. So I'd suggest shopping around — Google Sheets? https://support.google.com/docs/answer/6388102?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en …
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I would stick my neck out and state that the issue, 100%, is that biologists aren't universally trained in how to enter data into any system, anywhere. You're just left to your own devices, because, hey if you don't put that you "know" Excel on your CV, you look like a dingus.
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Oh, dear! Depressing: "if you don't put that you "know" Excel on your CV, you look like a dingus"!!!
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I dunno - there's not a job interview goes by that Excel (or MS Office) isn't explicitly mentioned in IT skills. It's like a lowest common denominator.
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I'm sorry. This makes me feel my field is so ahead and that I should be prouder of where we are when all job apps pretty much say "Python needed" and no mention of any MS products.
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