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    1. Mick Watson‏ @BioMickWatson 19 Aug 2018
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      I see Excel is being hated on again. To be honest, its quick visual sorting, filtering and graphing functions are exceptional. Fantastic for initial exploration of the data. I use it daily. Once I see the data, of course #rstats for serious graphs :)

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    2. Chris Cole‏ @drchriscole 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @BioMickWatson

      You're intentionally duplicating effort. Start with R and just continue. Instead you start with Excel and then redo it with R. Seems daft :)

      3 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
    3.  🐸‏ @froggleston 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @drchriscole @BioMickWatson

      There's an important distinction between "seeing the data" (Excel is unarguably good at this) and "working with data" (Excel is unarguably poor at this).

      2 replies 4 retweets 7 likes
    4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @froggleston @drchriscole @BioMickWatson

      If limited to just "seeing" the contents I would argue that is fine, although you do not need Excel to do that. Very expensive and bloated for just looking at some columns. Can be done better with better/smaller software.

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    5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Dorothy Bishop

      What people seem to do is ENTER the data in Excel. This is disturbing. Please do not do that.https://twitter.com/deevybee/status/1031151509965352960 …

      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ added,

      Dorothy Bishop @deevybee
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      Aargh. Are you not aware that sometimes a human being needs to intervene to input data? Not all data comes from a 'data collection program'. Sorry, but I've had enough of being told what I know this morning and I am going back to my data analysis (in R).
      3 replies 2 retweets 0 likes
    6. Chris Cole‏ @drchriscole 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @froggleston @BioMickWatson

      TBF the alternatives for human data entry are very limited. Even I'll admit Excel is good for that. Important to structure the data first.

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @drchriscole @froggleston @BioMickWatson

      Even if Excel is known to mangle stuff and other less bloated and cheaper software does less of this?

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    8. Mick Watson‏ @BioMickWatson 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @drchriscole @froggleston

      would love to hear suggestions - I think lots of people don't know about these

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @BioMickWatson @drchriscole @froggleston

      I can't say with certainty what is better as a) I don't enter data manually (I think this is important experience-based knowledge) and b) a lot of the issues highlighted by people are input-specific. So I'd suggest shopping around — Google Sheets? https://support.google.com/docs/answer/6388102?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en …

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        2. Mick Watson‏ @BioMickWatson 20 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @drchriscole @froggleston

          type DEC10 into Google Sheets and it does exactly what Excel does :/

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        2. Ming Chia‏ @realMingChia 20 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @BioMickWatson and

          Doesn't GSheets have similar issues to Excel? (reformat by default, little enforcement of data structure) (it's great for collab though!)

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        3.  🐸‏ @froggleston 20 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @realMingChia @o_guest and

          Yup, sure does.

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @froggleston @realMingChia and

          So the real solution is to enter data in raw text and delimit manually using tabs or commas, right?

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        5.  🐸‏ @froggleston 20 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @realMingChia and

          Yes, it makes the most sense to teach that Excel is OK for producing tabular representations, and that there are bad ways of doing this, but if you need to do anything else, export to CSV: https://datacarpentry.org/spreadsheet-ecology-lesson/ …

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        6. Dorothy Bishop‏ @deevybee 20 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @froggleston @o_guest and

          Which is exactly what the paper that started this whole discussion off recommends! I wish people would just read it.

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        7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @deevybee @froggleston and

          I didn't see the freeware software alternatives nor issues with version control mentioned in it last time I read it, when it first came out. Maybe I'm forgetting!

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        8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @deevybee and

          For example, this: "Keep all versions of the data files, so that if something gets corrupted (e.g., you accidentally type over some of the data and do not notice it until much later), you will be able to go back and fix it. Before you start inserting more data, make a copy of"

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        9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @deevybee and

          "the file with a new version number: file_v1.xlsx, file_v2.xlsx,..." Is really bad advice.

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        2.  🐸‏ @froggleston 20 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @BioMickWatson @drchriscole

          I would stick my neck out and state that the issue, 100%, is that biologists aren't universally trained in how to enter data into any system, anywhere. You're just left to your own devices, because, hey if you don't put that you "know" Excel on your CV, you look like a dingus.

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @froggleston @BioMickWatson @drchriscole

          Oh, dear! Depressing: "if you don't put that you "know" Excel on your CV, you look like a dingus"!!!

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        4.  🐸‏ @froggleston 20 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @BioMickWatson @drchriscole

          I dunno - there's not a job interview goes by that Excel (or MS Office) isn't explicitly mentioned in IT skills. It's like a lowest common denominator.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @froggleston @BioMickWatson @drchriscole

          I'm sorry. This makes me feel my field is so ahead and that I should be prouder of where we are when all job apps pretty much say "Python needed" and no mention of any MS products.

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        1. Michael H (Dr H)‏ @mrhunsaker 20 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @BioMickWatson and

          Gnumeric is much less buggy than GSheets. Also can use Deducer in R to give a spreqdsheet

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