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    1. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 18 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @zerdeve @IrisVanRooij @djnavarro

      Recently, two people told me/said a version of "there are lots of women in developmental (modelling) labs so everything is OK" and "women are now being trained in computational stuff"... The problem really REALLY is not a lack of well-trained women. 😢

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    2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 18 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @zerdeve and

      Also just to be clear, two people = senior-ish men in relatively and very powerful positions men in the broad cognitive science and psychology fields.

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    3. Berna D.‏ @zerdeve 18 Aug 2018
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      😑 Yeah the problem really isn’t women failing to do things here. Geez.

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    4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 18 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @zerdeve @IrisVanRooij @djnavarro

      Also it's not a lab-wise issue. Lack of women is a culture- and field-wide issue. One good lab is not like a patient zero and we'll all catch it. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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    5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 18 Aug 2018
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      Also again to make it extra clear: Training women is important. But it's not causal in a meaningful way here. The problem is not that they don't get training, it's that they get pushed out. Everybody shows up with similar enough skill sets but somehow the women leak out.

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    6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 18 Aug 2018
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      There are serious issues though for other fields because there almost no women do show up. Computer science in the West is basically all men. That sadly will never get addressed until the "male geek" trope, which I was lucky enough to grow up without, is dead.

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 18 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @zerdeve and

      That's a huge social issue The West needs to grapple with and cannot be solved by academia or science. 😣

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    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 18 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @zerdeve and

      Either way, the issue isn't training — don't waste ppl's time. Some useful training would be to train men not to be sexist & not to sexually harass/assault people. That's certainly something that with the right training could improve everybody's lives professionally & generally.

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    9. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 18 Aug 2018
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      So all in all, I find this idea that women can be trained to be thick skinned is fundamentally flawed. Not all men are thick skinned anyway and they magically do pretty well, right? And relatedly, training women generally as a solution to gender gaps is misplaced.

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    10. Iris van Rooij‏ @IrisVanRooij 18 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @zerdeve @djnavarro

      To be fair, I see certain men (especially, men we need more of, because they actually help improve academic culture & increase diversity) struggling in the current system too. Not all women do as much as many men I know. Unpopular opinion perhaps. Just my personal experience.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 18 Aug 2018
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      I totally agree. The system favours a very narrow band of human. That doesn't mean certain people have access to certain privileges but they still are stuck otherwise, yup.

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        1. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 18 Aug 2018
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          *Don't have access. 😂 Had to make a typo at some point. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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