Indeed it all sounds so backward and none of us need this kind of complication. Thank you for sharing your perspective. I appreciate it and we need to hear more voices like yours to understand the damage this kind of thinking does to all women.
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Also just to be clear, two people = senior-ish men in relatively and very powerful positions men in the broad cognitive science and psychology fields.
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Yeah the problem really isn’t women failing to do things here. Geez. -
Also it's not a lab-wise issue. Lack of women is a culture- and field-wide issue. One good lab is not like a patient zero and we'll all catch it.

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Also again to make it extra clear: Training women is important. But it's not causal in a meaningful way here. The problem is not that they don't get training, it's that they get pushed out. Everybody shows up with similar enough skill sets but somehow the women leak out.
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There are serious issues though for other fields because there almost no women do show up. Computer science in the West is basically all men. That sadly will never get addressed until the "male geek" trope, which I was lucky enough to grow up without, is dead.
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That's a huge social issue The West needs to grapple with and cannot be solved by academia or science.

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Either way, the issue isn't training — don't waste ppl's time. Some useful training would be to train men not to be sexist & not to sexually harass/assault people. That's certainly something that with the right training could improve everybody's lives professionally & generally.
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Amen to that

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