Since we're at the intersection of aeroplanes survival & discrimination, I'm droping this. They were given shitty plywood planes because they were "a bunch of girlies" but they managed anyway. That's amazing but also indicative of what survivor bias does.https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/07/night-witches-the-female-fighter-pilots-of-world-war-ii/277779/ …
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Replying to @o_guest @paweljmatusz and
Soviet fighter planes in WWII were mostly plywood, too. E.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-3 … (Probably most pilots preferred US planes...)
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“canvas planes” it is then..
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Replying to @paweljmatusz @o_guest and
PO-2 was a mass-produced (20.000 made) all-purpose slow and light plane. Flown by countless pilots, male and female. Helicopter was not yet invented. It is a bit far-fetched to say it was solely due to discrimination that females got to fly them.
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Replying to @dimpase @paweljmatusz and
Thanks for explaining your perspective does this actually change the fact they were treated differently and therefore are undeniably the product of survivor bias?
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I don't get that "treated differently". The regiment (one of many that flew PO-2 plane) was very successful, flew 23000 sorties at a loss of only 32 lives, was given various high combat awards. For female fighter pilots, check out https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydia_Litvyak …
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"Though women were initially barred from combat," you think men were barred initially too? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Witches …
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You think men were called "a bunch of girlies"?https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/07/night-witches-the-female-fighter-pilots-of-world-war-ii/277779/ …
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You think this was true for the other bombers manned by well, men? "Flying only in the dark, they had no parachutes, guns, radios or radar, only maps and compasses. If hit by tracer bullets, their planes would burn like sheets of paper."https://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/15/world/europe/nadezhda-popova-ww-ii-night-witch-dies-at-91.html …
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INB4: you start saying nobody had parachutes or something https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/4ugqvh/is_it_true_russian_ww2_soldiers_were_dropped_from/d5qao3c/ …
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