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    1. andrea e. martin‏ @andrea_e_martin 17 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @paweljmatusz @KordingLab @sterrett_sc

      it seems to me that luck and the ability to persist often interact w/ structural inequality. very ripe for attribution errors. in both success and failure, how much is really due to the individual? the system? power structures/ inequality? (w/ a role for stochasticity of course)

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    2. Paul Matusz‏ @paweljmatusz 17 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @andrea_e_martin @KordingLab @sterrett_sc

      Very true, I was hinting at that..

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    3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 17 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @paweljmatusz @andrea_e_martin and

      Since we're at the intersection of aeroplanes survival & discrimination, I'm droping this. They were given shitty plywood planes because they were "a bunch of girlies" but they managed anyway. That's amazing but also indicative of what survivor bias does.https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/07/night-witches-the-female-fighter-pilots-of-world-war-ii/277779/ …

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    4. Dima Pasechnik‏ @dimpase 17 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @paweljmatusz and

      Soviet fighter planes in WWII were mostly plywood, too. E.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-3 … (Probably most pilots preferred US planes...)

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    5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 17 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @dimpase @paweljmatusz and

      These were canvas and plywood.

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    6. Paul Matusz‏ @paweljmatusz 17 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @dimpase and

      “canvas planes” it is then..

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    7. Dima Pasechnik‏ @dimpase 17 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @paweljmatusz @o_guest and

      PO-2 was a mass-produced (20.000 made) all-purpose slow and light plane. Flown by countless pilots, male and female. Helicopter was not yet invented. It is a bit far-fetched to say it was solely due to discrimination that females got to fly them.

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    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 17 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @dimpase @paweljmatusz and

      Thanks for explaining your perspective does this actually change the fact they were treated differently and therefore are undeniably the product of survivor bias?

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    9. Dima Pasechnik‏ @dimpase 17 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @paweljmatusz and

      I don't get that "treated differently". The regiment (one of many that flew PO-2 plane) was very successful, flew 23000 sorties at a loss of only 32 lives, was given various high combat awards. For female fighter pilots, check out https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydia_Litvyak …

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    10. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 17 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @dimpase @paweljmatusz and

      "Though women were initially barred from combat," you think men were barred initially too? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Witches …

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 17 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @dimpase and

      You think men were called "a bunch of girlies"?https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/07/night-witches-the-female-fighter-pilots-of-world-war-ii/277779/ …

      10:16 AM - 17 Aug 2018
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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 17 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @dimpase and

          You think this was true for the other bombers manned by well, men? "Flying only in the dark, they had no parachutes, guns, radios or radar, only maps and compasses. If hit by tracer bullets, their planes would burn like sheets of paper."https://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/15/world/europe/nadezhda-popova-ww-ii-night-witch-dies-at-91.html …

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 17 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @dimpase and

          INB4: you start saying nobody had parachutes or something https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/4ugqvh/is_it_true_russian_ww2_soldiers_were_dropped_from/d5qao3c/ …

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