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    Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 17 Aug 2018
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    Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Alexandra Bulat

    Brexit is awful. But taking fingerprints DNA & photos of immigrants is (sadly IMHO) normal for non-EU ppl. So are remainers wanting to abolish it or just avoid it being introduced for EU nationals? Is it double standards or HUGE ignorance about how the UK treats immigrants here?https://twitter.com/alexandrabulat/status/1030208166510960640 …

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    Alexandra Bulat @alexandrabulat
    "take their DNA", "prove their worth", "deport all", "give them numbers, they are not worthy of having names" No, these are not quotes from the 1930s. This is the comment section of the Daily Express in 2018 UK, on an article about the status of @The3Million after Brexit. pic.twitter.com/fjeh9RQjjd
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      2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 17 Aug 2018
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        Adding this here:https://www.gov.uk/register-with-the-police …

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      3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 17 Aug 2018
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        And this: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/539328/In-Country_information_leaflet_-_July_2016.pdf …

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      4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 17 Aug 2018
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        Apparently people have no idea what non-EU immigrants go through.

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      2. Matt Craddock‏ @Matt_Craddock 17 Aug 2018
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        IME the latter; I have non-EU friends who have been annoyed at how this stuff is suddenly terrible, when they've been putting up with it since forever and nobody cared. and, for the record, abolish it for all. It's shite, and that other countries do it is not a reason to do it

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      3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 17 Aug 2018
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        I'm not going to lie but even the latter option is IMHO damning.

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      4. Matt Craddock‏ @Matt_Craddock 17 Aug 2018
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        oh i agree (and I'd have been guilty of being ignorant of it a while ago)

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      5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 17 Aug 2018
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        Also to clarify when I say "damning" I mean into the context. Context being going around claiming taking people's fingerprints is unacceptable and campaigning to stop Brexit but being so painfully ignorant of what the UK does.

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      6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 17 Aug 2018
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        In a more general context, i.e., somebody not campaigning against Brexit, it's not ideal to be ignorant but less egregious.

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      7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 17 Aug 2018
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        I am against borders, which ironically could be seen as a conservative view given borders didn't exist before the 20th century pretty much. 🤣

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      2. Maria Niedernhuber #FBPE‏ @maria_ndrnh 17 Aug 2018
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        i've seen brexiters claim their support for leave on the grounds of this inequality though. this is weird because you don't solve a problem (i.e. the treatment of immigrants), by imposing it on more people.

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      3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 17 Aug 2018
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        Replying to @maria_ndrnh

        Often they are Quislings IMHO.

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      4. Maria Niedernhuber #FBPE‏ @maria_ndrnh 17 Aug 2018
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        What’s that?

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      5. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 17 Aug 2018
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        Replying to @maria_ndrnh

        it's a term for what they could be. See here for more [but also TW: Nazis]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quisling 

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      2. Eros Carvalho‏ @filosofemas 17 Aug 2018
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        even non-EU academic visitors who intend to stay for more than 6 months (and no more than 1 year) need to take fingerprints, register in a police station, keep them informed about any change of address etc.

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      3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 17 Aug 2018
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        Replying to @filosofemas

        Yes, I know, sadly it's a common thing.

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      2. Isabel Stockton‏ @isabel_stockton 17 Aug 2018
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        I don't think that's a fair characterization of @alexandrabulat's point. We can and should do better in terms of solidarity among immigrants. But it's still valid to feel worried or scared, even if other people are more oppressed/suffering more than you are.

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      3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 17 Aug 2018
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        Replying to @isabel_stockton @schrodingerskit @alexandrabulat

        To be clear, I never claimed any feelings are invalid. I think some really great stuff came up further down the thread where a few people in my field shared their/our immigration experiences.

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      1. Kwasi‏ @Olu_GH 17 Aug 2018
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        As someone who has given the Home office my fingerprints more than once, I think a bit of both. People don't understand how immigration to the UK actually works and their empathy for migrants in general, and non-EU migrants in particular, is very limited

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      1. Maria Niedernhuber #FBPE‏ @maria_ndrnh 17 Aug 2018
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        yes I agree. The way the UK and the EU treat immigrants is despicable, and this should not happen to anyone. I think that the root of the problem is global inequality which drives some migration.

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