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    1. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 7 Aug 2018
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      1/2 That aficionados to the allure of AI do not understand ML algorithms does not mean to imply that those who build them do not! >>https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/05/magical-thinking-about-machine-learning-will-not-bring-artificial-intelligence-any-closer?CMP=share_btn_tw …

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    2. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 7 Aug 2018
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      2/2 Through history, alarmist self appointed connoisseurs have inflicted considerable harm to knowledge and science, and so have done those with hidden interested agendas. Please stop!

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    3. Eduardo Alonso‏ @EAlonso20 7 Aug 2018
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      intriguing, that the CS technology that has (probably) created the highest research output and input in the last decade is now being labelled as “alchemy"

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    4. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 7 Aug 2018
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      Indeed! I suspect that these people have very specific interests in promoting a different, classical, unsuccessful approach...

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    5. Eduardo Alonso‏ @EAlonso20 7 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @twitemp1

      back to KD45. Still plenty to do of course, but labelling this new, amazing, technology as “magic”, “alchemy”, etc does not help

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    6. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 7 Aug 2018
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      Yes! The reason this message remains is because places like Less Wrong stoke the fire of BS 24/7. With stuff like Roko's Basilisk, Bayes versus Science, etc., etc.

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    7. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 7 Aug 2018
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      People, academics, need to speak out and often — exactly because the other side is much more vocal and powerful.https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/25/will_ai_spell_the_end_of_humanity_the_tech_industry_wants_you_to_think_so/ …

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    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 7 Aug 2018
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      If you think LW are marginal... Sadly starting to connect the dots becomes depressing how high up their influence is. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko's_basilisk …

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 7 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @EAlonso20 @twitemp1

      It's no coincidence Musk reads their BS, dates people based on their BS:https://www.inverse.com/article/44612-elon-musk-grimes-rococo-basilisk …

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        2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 7 Aug 2018
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          Also with respect to "alchemy". Agreed on some level, but the worst ABSOLUTE WORST, aspect is not any specific casting of AI as bad but the utter inability to debate without reference to LW BS. Some AI is bad, some AI is alchemy. Really recommend this BTW:https://youtu.be/x7psGHgatGM 

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        3. Eduardo Alonso‏ @EAlonso20 7 Aug 2018
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          Hmm, some AI is done badly for sure but I guess that that applies to any "young" discipline where research is still at a "trial and error" stage. Reminds me of steam engines and thermodynamics. We need more math analysis a la Mallat.

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        4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 7 Aug 2018
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          I'm not sure the point is it's done badly per se. Just that it's not always done scientifically. That's fine and AI/ML can choose to be engineering, science, or both.

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        5. Esther Mondragón‏ @twitemp1 7 Aug 2018
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          Provided that we know which position we are taking when drawing conclusions from the work we are dealing with: I.e., if the approach is that of engineering we should not present it as scientific knowledge

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