I basically quit a paper over something along these lines but even worse, sadly. They added in another modeller/theorist without even telling us who did some other random stuff that was actually really misplaced because unlike us they were not there at the inception of the work.
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Replying to @waterlego @cian_neuro and
For one paper we are working on I did the modelling first, suggested a bunch of experiments and predicted their results. We did the experiments and it all worked! Some colleagues suggested that we should write the story with experiments first and the model at the end
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Replying to @Adrian_Jacobo @waterlego and
Journal peer reviewers demanded that we reconfigure one of our papers exactly like that.
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Replying to @cian_neuro @mnitabach and
Typical inversion of means and end. Experiments are a means to explain some phenomenon, build some theory. They are not the things to be explained. I guess the field is so dominated by experimental work that it tends to forget that obvious truth.
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Replying to @RomainBrette @cian_neuro and
Indeed. And it is ironic because it seems to me that those who think that experiments are an end (rather than a means, for the end which is theory, which implies perception) tend to also believe that behaviour is an end (rather than a means, for perception).
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Replying to @behaviOrganisms @RomainBrette and
Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ Retweeted Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ
Also just to be clear even though I agree in some sense Theory is an end. But really it never ends. Science is a cycle. E.g.,:https://twitter.com/o_guest/status/1021288918396874757 …
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Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ @o_guestReplying to @IrisVanRooij @JCSkewesDK and 3 othersHere's something that helps I think for those who haven't been exposed before. I'm not equivocating between theory and spec but they can serve a similar role. https://figshare.com/articles/Varieties_of_Reproducibility_in_Empirical_and_Computational_Domains/6818018 … pic.twitter.com/3GTTzV3gIH1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
And importantly! This graphic: "This image describes the Scientific Method as a cyclic/iterative process of continuous improvement." https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Scientific_method#/media/File:The_Scientific_Method_as_an_Ongoing_Process.svg …pic.twitter.com/CUUcddkog3
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