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    1. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 31 Jul 2018
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      Strong woman. This is why I'm essentially scared to say "shut up" and 99% of the time pretend not to hear anything. When I have said something like "I don't talk to strangers" I get rape threats. 😢https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/30/uproar-in-france-over-video-of-woman-marie-laguerre-hit-by-harasser-in-paris-street?CMP=share_btn_tw …

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    2. David Kagan‏ @davekagan 31 Jul 2018
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      Wow, yeah, that's a tough position to be in. I know others who have said they experience similar. I feel for you. I'm sorry some men do that! It's nice to see women trained in krav maga, and perhaps carry a stun gun or defense pen (with training so it's not turned against them).

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    3. Dr. Christina Bergmann‏ @chbergma 31 Jul 2018
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      How about we instead train men to not harass others, so women / minorities don't need to have 20 different strategies ready and still face the choice between being demeaned or endangered.

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    4. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 31 Jul 2018
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      David, I don't know you but advising me to break the law is pretty shitty.

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    5. David Kagan‏ @davekagan 31 Jul 2018
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      Actually, heck, I should ask you instead... you're likely far more up to date on these things than when I was in school. Besides the immediate feedback involved in operant conditioning, what might be a more modern way to handle those who resist basic human ethics & training?

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 31 Jul 2018
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      In all honesty, I wish I knew. Humans are so weird sometimes

      7:12 AM - 31 Jul 2018
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        2. David Kagan‏ @davekagan 31 Jul 2018
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          That's unfortunate. I wish the science addressed this. The problem with operant conditioning is that it can somewhat dehumanzing. And it can take outright brutal forms when you combine it with something like the American culture.

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        3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 31 Jul 2018
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          This is France though, of course.

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        4. David Kagan‏ @davekagan 31 Jul 2018
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          Yes. My reaction was very American, though (and had quite a bit to do with how you said you get rape threats). And, of course, this type of thing happens everywhere. Violence towards the innocent is sadly universal. It's monstrous, really.

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        2. David Kagan‏ @davekagan 31 Jul 2018
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          A multivariate situation that can be complex to address. Anyway, I'll let you be. Again, my apologies. That was a deeply disturbing video for me. Some of the people I've loved the most have been a victim of sexual violence, and it too often leaves permanent damage.

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        3. Dr. Christina Bergmann‏ @chbergma 31 Jul 2018
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          I appreciate that you try to understand the problem and find solutions. I only wanted to mention that far too often the burden is placed on the wrong side. That's also why it's so important for bystanders to step up (as done here, and with regard for their own safety)

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        4. David Kagan‏ @davekagan 31 Jul 2018
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          You're very right, Christina. It most definitely is not the woman's fault. I'm sorry if I implied that in any way. Thank you for your kind words. I was perhaps too overreactive. There are societal failures here that must be addressed in a sincere way.

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        1. David Kagan‏ @davekagan 31 Jul 2018
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          Again, my apologies. I was raised by my grandfather, and grew up mostly with female friends, so I hate to see this type of things. It literally breaks my heart.

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        1. David Kagan‏ @davekagan 31 Jul 2018
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          I think many times there are 2 types of men who engage in such behavior 1) deeply hurt people society has failed. Hurt people share pain. and b) the sort of "jock" "bro" culture which mixes entitlement with violence. This should just be abandoned. It doesn't work anymore

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