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    1. mvugt‏ @mvugt 23 Jul 2018
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      Jennifer Trueblood: ideas for improving cognitive modeling: make models available, report models that do not work as well, detailed evaluation of models #iccmpsyched

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    2. Florian Sense‏ @flosense 23 Jul 2018
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      I like the idea of having both a pre-registration (w/the understanding that things will go wrong) and a post-registration (to document what went wrong and was done that didn't work before you got it to work). #iccmpsyched

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    3. David Meyer‏ @dajmeyer 23 Jul 2018
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      As Trueblood points out, this is essentially what already has to be done with funded research: a proposal and a final report.

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    4. Florian Sense‏ @flosense 23 Jul 2018
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      Ideally, we'd all do this all the time, I agree. But I think most journals have a slight bias towards having you report what works rather than what did not. I can only read what someone publishes but not the report they write for their funding agency.

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    5. David Meyer‏ @dajmeyer 23 Jul 2018
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      I agree—just pointing out that this isn’t too much extra work.

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    6. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble 23 Jul 2018
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      I'm not sure that I agree. There's a substantial difference between the kind of reporting one does at the end of a grant and publishing papers about what doesn't work. The two are written for different audiences.

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    7. David Meyer‏ @dajmeyer 23 Jul 2018
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      Fair enough. I guess it depends how thorough one’s final reports are.

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    8. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 23 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @dajmeyer @bradpwyble and

      How do you preregister computational modelling work?

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    9. Burcu Arslan, PhD‏ @BArslan_CogSci 23 Jul 2018
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      One way I know is constructing the model before data collection, running simulations, registering the results and then collecting the data. After that, tweaking the parameters for a better fit, if it is necessary.

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    10. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 23 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @BArslan_CogSci @dajmeyer and

      Not all comp models use data.

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 23 Jul 2018
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      Replying to @o_guest @BArslan_CogSci and

      But yeah, that's legit.

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        2. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble 23 Jul 2018
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          Replying to @o_guest @BArslan_CogSci and

          I'm not sure I'd call that pre-registering the models though. I think that's just the normal way to use models correctly. The model essentially pre-registers the experiment.

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        3. Burcu Arslan, PhD‏ @BArslan_CogSci 23 Jul 2018
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          Replying to @bradpwyble @o_guest and

          I agree it is the correct way unless the goal of the model is to provide an explanation for existing data. I couldn’t understand why the correct way of modeling can’t be called pre-registration though.

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        4. Brad Wyble‏ @bradpwyble 23 Jul 2018
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          Sure I agree it can be called pre-registration.. but I don't think the model itself is pre-registered. That phrasing suggests to me that you state in advance how you will build the model. I don't quite understand how that would look or work.

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