We already have "pre-crime" crimes. If you threaten somebody that is a crime. As is preparing, e.g., a terrorist attack. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offences_Against_the_Person_Act_1861#Threats_to_kill …
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Replying to @o_guest @laurelai_bailey and
Anyway I thought you were arguing that some people are inherently bad... if not then forget what I said and we agree that people are generally OK as a default. Pre-judging people as lost causes seems more inline with the thought crimes line of argument you brought up IMHO.
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Replying to @o_guest @laurelai_bailey and
I'm not prejudging that all people are bad, I'm just saying that not everyone is equal in capacity and not everyone wants to or can be involved in their communities or engage in direct democracy. But that's me, we're all speaking subjectively
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Replying to @laurelai_bailey @o_guest and
Yup, I'll go with that. It's in the same ballpark but not the same game. I support the termination of foetuses with chromosomal disorders if thats what the mother wants. Thats a form of eugenics. The Holocaust did a lot to hold back rational discussion abt these sensitive topics.
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Replying to @laurelai_bailey @o_guest and
Wait. Either people are inherently good and therefore Nazi-like eugenics cannot be the logical conclusion, or (my perspective) we are all actually shades of grey & shd be able to discuss such things without getting into ideological shouting matches & actually look at the facts.
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Replying to @adativs @laurelai_bailey and
And lest there is any doubt: Im not arguing for eugenics. Im saying that allowing a mother to terminate a pregnancy on basis that kid will have Downs is at the opposite end of SAME spectrum to gassing ppl w Downs to remove their genes from the pop. Somewhere between is a line.
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Replying to @adativs @laurelai_bailey and
Yes, I pasted that line for you. When the mother wants to do it, you let her do it. But to say "a mother in China aborting a female fetus because she wants a son" is OK is not OK. To blame the mother however, is misplaced.
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Replying to @o_guest @laurelai_bailey and
Unless I'm missing something (trying to keep track of all the messages), this doesnt actually address the point.
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I'm going to stop replying to you until you stop saying it's the number of messages that are the problem.
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