Since Nazis have already been mentioned, something to remember is that even in Nazi Germany they had to be secretive. T4 was stopped & restarted as a secret operation cos ppls were so opposed, and by pls I mean essentially other Nazis as well.
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Replying to @o_guest @laurelai_bailey and
So yes, you need to put in a lot of effort. That effort is being put in though so it's not like I'm arguing there are no issues presently.
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Replying to @o_guest @laurelai_bailey and
And there are people who are seemingly bad people, but to argue it's an unchangeable characteristic of their personality seems pointless debate IMHO. Some people, e.g., Nazis, do need to be punched/killed, of course.
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At what point does it cross the line into thought-crime though? Or pre-crime? That's the thing...
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We already have "pre-crime" crimes. If you threaten somebody that is a crime. As is preparing, e.g., a terrorist attack. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offences_Against_the_Person_Act_1861#Threats_to_kill …
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Anyway I thought you were arguing that some people are inherently bad... if not then forget what I said and we agree that people are generally OK as a default. Pre-judging people as lost causes seems more inline with the thought crimes line of argument you brought up IMHO.
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I'm not prejudging that all people are bad, I'm just saying that not everyone is equal in capacity and not everyone wants to or can be involved in their communities or engage in direct democracy. But that's me, we're all speaking subjectively
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Direct democracy is why Brexit happened.
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