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    1. Eoin Travers‏ @TraversEoin 20 Jun 2018
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      Conversely, if you're a hiring committee that makes decisions by counting publications, or IF-weighted publications, we're also irritated by your japes.

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    2. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Jun 2018
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      I've never been on that kind of hiring committee you mean (i.e. for a permanent position) but I wonder how much is conscious/unconscious on an individual level and how much is literally in the "rules"/explicitly written down? I have been on other hiring committees and FWIW no IF

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    3. Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Jun 2018
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      or even journal names were mentioned. But of course postdoc and RSE jobs aren't the same as permanent positions and my experience is tiny either way.

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    4. Lorraine Hope‏ @lorraine_hope 20 Jun 2018
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      When we hire, we plot applicant publications in a large spreadsheet alongside metrics etc (& a bunch of other information from CVs/applications) so the information for everyone is fully transparent. Conf proceedings would not be included. Don't think this is common practice tho.

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    5. Eoin Travers‏ @TraversEoin 20 Jun 2018
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      Looking back, my comment looks more sarky than I meant it to be. Sorry! I know publication counting is inevitable, even if it does lead to perverse incentives. Shouldn't we celebrate and promote our conference proceedings and preprints though? [...]

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    6. Lorraine Hope‏ @lorraine_hope 20 Jun 2018
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      Yes of course! By listing them under appropriate headings so that they're not being passed off as something they're not - that's the bit that's irritating - and reflects badly on the CV. The actual activities are great!

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    7. Lorraine Hope‏ @lorraine_hope 20 Jun 2018
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      ...and would be taken in to account - esp. for ECRs as it means they're out and about disseminating their research at international conferences.

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    8. Eoin Travers‏ @TraversEoin 20 Jun 2018
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      Very fair points. But should we also put Frontiers and other pay-to-publish journals in a different column? And Nature/Science? (Obviously, I'm just ranting here. I'm not asking your hiring committee to fix the problems endemic in our profession!)

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    9. Lorraine Hope‏ @lorraine_hope 20 Jun 2018
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      Erm - nope - why would you? It's not necessarily vanity publishing if it's been through a peer-review process (which seems to be what is implied in your comment). Vanity publishing...another issue entirely. [by the way, Mayo woman here! :-) ]

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    10. Eoin Travers‏ @TraversEoin 20 Jun 2018
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      Small world! I'm heading home for family time in Donegal next week, so might be squeezing in a visit to the Westport Traverses!

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      Olivia Guest | Ολίβια Γκεστ‏ @o_guest 20 Jun 2018
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      Best end to thread! ☘️🍀

      4:45 AM - 20 Jun 2018
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