Been following the discussion, thanks. I recall acceptance rates of cogsci used to be much lower (35%, but perhaps that for talks only?
), so I’m surprised to see this high number (have not been able to attend lately). In any event, I understand those visceral reactions—same.
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Replying to @IrisVanRooij @djnavarro and
Recently, when I made a new website I chose to put a few selected papers on top of my publication list. Criteria for me were: 1) give a quick impression of my work and 2) for me important papers (& I guess ones I am proud of). One of the papers is a cogsci proceedings paper.
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Replying to @IrisVanRooij @djnavarro and
I can't tell if this is in disagreement with my quoted tweet or not (another reason to dislike quote tweeting in many cases) but FWIW I don't think anybody in this thread is part of the problem I was referring to.
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Replying to @o_guest @djnavarro and
Not disagreeing with you Olivia; just adding to considerations expressed by Danielle. Got me thinking about how I see this myself.>>
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Replying to @IrisVanRooij @o_guest and
Possibly my experiences with both seeing people playing the system getting rewarded & others doing amazing and important work not being credited (because they do not meet absurd simplistic one-dimensial metrics) have shaped my perspective.
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Replying to @IrisVanRooij @djnavarro and
I'm not sure my experiences disagree with yours. I do worry when phd students look at a person only slightly ahead (like a final year phd student) with many cogsci proceedings and think this is 10 "journal articles" and get stressed and think they are failing at writing stuff.
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Replying to @o_guest @djnavarro and
Ah gotcha! I indeed did not understand that you were concerned by this.
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Replying to @o_guest @djnavarro and
Reread your post now. Guess I misread it, because the quote-tweet (or: the ‘fooling yourselves’) seemed to change focus. IMHO so much wrong atm with the academic system that I do not even know where to start in helping aleviate imposter syndrome.
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Twitter is so hard sometimes. I would love it if proceedings in our field could be treated like journal articles but the way some people use them seems damaging, or at least confusing, to others.
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Replying to @o_guest @IrisVanRooij and
At the end of the day if one call the CV section "publications" instead of "journal articles" it's tiny but I think it can help to make younglings less confused... At least it's more descriptive.
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