I don't know about this, a lot of work first published in CogSci proceedings is later published in "prestigious" journals
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Replying to @tallinzen @o_guest
If it's published later in a journal then that's one thing. But that doesn't make cogsci proceedings a paper.
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Replying to @BayesForDays @o_guest
Sure, preprints and proceedings papers don't count as much as fancy journal papers for hiring and promotion (for better or worse), but that doesn't mean that the work they describe is work you couldn't get published elsewhere (that's the bit I was objecting to)
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Replying to @tallinzen @o_guest
Fwiw it's work that often isn't published elsewhere, which I find somewhat suspicious.
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Replying to @BayesForDays @tallinzen
I think there's definitely a culture amongst certain cogsci attendees that really promotes sending as many abstracts as possible every year and somehow this specific group (dare I say clique?) gets many accepted. It's certainly something.
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Replying to @o_guest @BayesForDays
It's not so difficult to get accepted - 73% of the submissions were accepted this year (perhaps one of the reasons a CogSci proceedings paper isn't seen as a big CV win)
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hmm.. is harsh on cogsci. yeah low bar but is peer reviewed (maybe soon blind). what about invited chapters, articles in special issues, or PLOSOne etc.. which have effective 100% accept rate? often those are invisibly on CV.
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Everything is graded, though. I'd just rather not see proceedings in the articles section, it belongs somewhere else.
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Replying to @BayesForDays @todd_gureckis and
And there are lots of people whose "publication" records are 70-90% cogsci proceedings, which makes their records look amazing, even when they are not
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true, that’s a bad model to follow for sure
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Yeah, that's the bit that I think really confuses the people I was referring to.
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