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    The New York Times‏Verified account @nytimes May 13

    Every year, parents send their children to college, trusting that they will be well, or that word will come if they are not. Gina Burton had lived every parent’s nightmare: a child flunking out, sinking into despair, his parents the last to know.https://nyti.ms/2rCymNm 

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      2. Anthony Bradley‏ @drantbradley May 13
        Replying to @nytimes

        A college student is not a child. College students are adults. And two federal regulatory laws HIPPA and FERPA do not give colleges freedom to violate the privacy of their adult students. Parents need to know this. That’s the problem.

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      4. Anthony Bradley‏ @drantbradley May 13
        Replying to @lmbolas @nytimes

        No, we know about that since nearly all of that psych research comes from colleges in the first place, so that’s not the problem. Fact: colleges hire more psychologists than any institution in America.

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      2. JacqB‏ @jacqb8 May 13
        Replying to @nytimes

        Call me intrusive but if I am paying for college, my child will sign for full disclosure. Hopefully it will come from a place of mutual agreement and understanding but creating an information blackout at age 18 - when many kids are still figuring so much out - not for me.

        2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      3. Breakthrough Fitness‏ @fitness_linda May 13
        Replying to @jacqb8 @nytimes

        Kids of my generation had lots of unstructured free time, but when we got to college, grades went directly home to the parents. Now the situation is reversed. Kids who have experienced little independence get sent to college and have full independence, without prior preparation.

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      4. JacqB‏ @jacqb8 May 13
        Replying to @fitness_linda @nytimes

        Had not thought of that but you totally nailed it.

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      1. ConsiderTheBees‏ @Wildfyrewarning May 13
        Replying to @nytimes

        Unless students are under 18, they are adults and have a right to decide if they want their medical/academic information shared w/parents. If you go into the workforce you certainly don't expect your boss to call your parents about issues, and the same should go for students.

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      2. nerdlogic‏ @nerdlogic0_o May 13
        Replying to @nytimes

        It's important to note that most campuses underreport incident statistics e.g. rape, stalking, etc. Parents may not have access to student privacy records under FERPA, but students also can't make informed decisions about whether schools have adequate mental health treatment...

        1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
      3. nerdlogic‏ @nerdlogic0_o May 13
        Replying to @nerdlogic0_o @nytimes

        Or public safety protocols. I attended a school where the administrative protocol for incidents was to contact administrators amd the college lawyers on a phone tree to come up with a response which led to numerous critical incidents being mismanaged

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. nerdlogic‏ @nerdlogic0_o May 13
        Replying to @nerdlogic0_o @nytimes

        They would reclassify many of the incidents that impacted students' mental health so that they didn't have to report it in the Clery statistics. Existing students didn't know the info wasn't being reported. I learned after the fact that this is normal for higher ed...

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      5. nerdlogic‏ @nerdlogic0_o May 13
        Replying to @nerdlogic0_o @nytimes

        So when schools don't accurately report the mental health issues students self report, there is no way to measure prevalence, know how best to fund and audit resources, and students who need intervention can't get the services they need to thrive.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. nerdlogic‏ @nerdlogic0_o May 13
        Replying to @nerdlogic0_o @nytimes

        The reason FERPA exists is because there is a high prevalence ov students who elect not to share private info with parents due to estrangement, etc. For many, it's the 1st time they get to become stewards of their own bodily autonomy and privacy.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. nerdlogic‏ @nerdlogic0_o May 13
        Replying to @nerdlogic0_o @nytimes

        If you have secure attachments w your children, talking to them about how/when to elect mental health services before they attend college would be a good first step. Students are exposed to a lot w/out their consent. Encourage your child to reach out if they need better services

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      8. nerdlogic‏ @nerdlogic0_o May 13
        Replying to @nerdlogic0_o @nytimes

        During recruitment, it's beneficial to make sure the school offers culturally relevant services. The school I attended didn't even hire it's 1st black mental health practitioner until 2013. Ask questions about how the incident reporting process works before signing your check.

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      1. Avramov Kosta‏ @AvramovK May 13
        Replying to @nytimes

        This Is Painful/Disturbing #Heavy Emotional,News. Real Life News My Intention Is Not,To Attack The College. Yet Responsibility Is #Imperative For,Officials. This Fragile Man,Was #Painfully Young. Now..Forever Gone. His Suicide,Is #Dagger In,His Parents Hearts. Words Are Powerless

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      1. msbook‏ @GregAltepeter May 13
        Replying to @nytimes

        They're 18. It's up to them to inform their parents, or not to.

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      2. lyraedro‏ @lyraedro May 13
        Replying to @nytimes

        Of course they should have been told. Privacy laws need to be reassessed to allow parents to be told of young adult children's despair.

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      3. General Order 24‏ @construct_001 May 13
        Replying to @lyraedro @nytimes

        Privacy laws exist for a reason. Sometimes they also protect a young adult from a parent, for example.

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      1. Roberto Bazan‏ @BazanrvBazan May 13
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