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    The New York Times‏Verified account @nytimes Apr 28

    Should genealogy databases be used to solve crimes? The Golden State Killer case has set off a debate over privacy and ethical issues.https://nyti.ms/2r8piQ3 

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      2. Ryan Jack O’lanterns Ate My Neighbors‏ @Ryknowsnothing Apr 28
        Replying to @nytimes

        What’s the admissibility of this evidence? And how credible is it? (Probably the Defense’s case in a nutshell)

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      3. Erin‏ @thevelvetsun Apr 28
        Replying to @Ryknowsnothing @nytimes

        After they had a suspect, they did a stakeout and grabbed an item he has discarded (likely a disposable cup or something similar) and tested it. They did this TWICE before arresting him. The case is airtight.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. Ryan Jack O’lanterns Ate My Neighbors‏ @Ryknowsnothing Apr 28
        Replying to @thevelvetsun @nytimes

        I know. I’m just guessing the defense will move to have any dna evidence submitted to a genealogy website struck as inadmissible.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Ann Brocklehurst‏ @AnnB03 Apr 28
        Replying to @Ryknowsnothing @thevelvetsun @nytimes

        Doesn't matter. They have his DNA from the crime scene. And his discard DNA. It's a perfect match

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. Ryan Jack O’lanterns Ate My Neighbors‏ @Ryknowsnothing Apr 28
        Replying to @AnnB03 @thevelvetsun @nytimes

        Nice. I’m not a lawyer. Just thought that might be a defense’s approach to a jury regarding the evidence. Thanks for the info.

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      7. Ann Brocklehurst‏ @AnnB03 Apr 28
        Replying to @Ryknowsnothing @thevelvetsun @nytimes

        No jury anywhere is going to buy that when they see the evidence. Not to mention there was no violation of law. Public database. Why should cops not be allowed to use it the same way you and I can?

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      8. Ryan Jack O’lanterns Ate My Neighbors‏ @Ryknowsnothing Apr 28
        Replying to @AnnB03 @thevelvetsun @nytimes

        No clue. I just was trying to think how a defense would try to discredit the evidence.

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      1. Naptime Nancy Drew‏ @naptimenancydrw Apr 28
        Replying to @nytimes

        Hell yes. It's in the fine print, folks. if you're not comfortable with potentially helping rape and murder victims find justice then don't submit your DNA. It's really that simple.

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      1. jenvallez‏ @sophieandlili Apr 28
        Replying to @nytimes

        If it saves a life, yes!

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      1. Marilia Drusch‏ @Druschmarilia Apr 28
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        Yes .Dont want ur info used to help solve crimes ? Don’t give it up to begin with

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      1. Lovely Lady Nash & The Web‏ @AntiquesDuo Apr 28
        Replying to @nytimes

        When you do any of the DNA programs you sign a release that says they can use your DNA for w/e... whenever etc.. They basically get the rights to use your DNA for anything they want...

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      2. Al Lefeusch‏ @alefeusch Apr 28
        Replying to @nytimes

        I see nothing wrong with this, as long as it's done in a legal fashion.

        2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
      3. Mathias Barra‏ @Mathbarra Apr 28
        Replying to @alefeusch @nytimes

        It is not wrong because it is legal—it is legal because it is not wrong... Well, it is the the ‘legal fashion’ part which is questioned here, so you are not really contributing.

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      4. keram‏ @rkevan87 Apr 28
        Replying to @Mathbarra @alefeusch @nytimes

        He is saying as long as the law is followed which means the DNA should not be accessed unless a judge sees evidence worthy enough to grant a search warrant allowing them to seize the DNA as evidence.

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      5. Al Lefeusch‏ @alefeusch Apr 28
        Replying to @rkevan87 @Mathbarra @nytimes

        Yep

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      1. em lafleur  💙‏ @em_lafleur Apr 28
        Replying to @nytimes

        If you've ever submitted DNA to a site and not worried about the other implications of its use and abuse (like insurance denial for risk factors if republicans get their way and appease the insurance industry as they so love to do) then, to put it kindly, live and learn.

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      1. FORTIS‏ @fortismind Apr 28
        Replying to @nytimes

        The answer is in the DNA.” End the back log of untested rape kits. 13,615 untested rape kits in CA. http://endthebacklog.org/california 

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      2. On The Case Man‏ @OnTheCaseMan Apr 28
        Replying to @nytimes

        I wias thinking about getting one, but am a lot more reluctant to now. I don't want my DNA to be responsible for "solving" crimes I'm not even aware of. That is creepy, weird and, well, wrong, especially if you don't know it'll be used for that purpose when you give it.

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      3. em lafleur  💙‏ @em_lafleur Apr 28
        Replying to @OnTheCaseMan @nytimes

        I cannot believe people are so narrow in their thinking. DNA can at some point be used to deny employment, deny or increase the cost of health insurance ...hell, it can become like the next "credit check". "Sorry, we'd love to have you but your DNA is too flawed." SLIPPERY SLOPE

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