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    The New York Times‏Verified account @nytimes Jan 3

    Thomas Monson, the president of the Mormon church who rebuffed demands to ordain women as priests and refused to alter church opposition to same-sex marriage, died Tuesday at 90http://nyti.ms/2CAoRGP 

    7:49 AM - 3 Jan 2018
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      2. Yvonne Marie Clark‏ @deg98_yc Jan 3
        Replying to @nytimes

        Ok ENOUGH!!!! This man just died!!! I as a women don’t want the priesthood and two why is it that when the Mormon church doesn’t change the same sex marriage it’s “oh their terrible” there are many many other religious groups that don’t support it.

        21 replies 12 retweets 788 likes
      3. Adam Fowler‏ @adamfowler23 Jan 3
        Replying to @deg98_yc @nytimes

        Oh boo hoo, did you demand the same respect for the thousands of teens that have commited suicide as a direct result of his church's bigoted and hateful policies?

        46 replies 7 retweets 265 likes
      4. Wildturkeyfartblunt‏ @_vwag23 Jan 3
        Replying to @adamfowler23 @deg98_yc @nytimes

        Show me the stats.

        5 replies 1 retweet 203 likes
      5. Jordan Cummings‏ @j_d_cummings Jan 3
        Replying to @_vwag23 @adamfowler23 and

        Utah has the nation's highest suicide rate and homelessness rate among LGBTQ teens.

        17 replies 19 retweets 270 likes
      6. Wildturkeyfartblunt‏ @_vwag23 Jan 3
        Replying to @j_d_cummings @adamfowler23 and

        Show me the correlation between that and the LDS church?

        5 replies 2 retweets 225 likes
      7. Jordan Cummings‏ @j_d_cummings Jan 3
        Replying to @_vwag23 @adamfowler23 and

        Spike in suicide rate after 2008 prop (which LDS leadership had heavy involvement in). Spike in suicide rate after November 2015 doctrine regarding children of gay parents.

        15 replies 6 retweets 160 likes
      8. Wildturkeyfartblunt‏ @_vwag23 Jan 3
        Replying to @j_d_cummings @adamfowler23 and

        Will you share with me where you found those metrics?

        12 replies 1 retweet 169 likes
      9. Utahman01‏ @Utahman01 Jan 3
        Replying to @_vwag23 @j_d_cummings and

        He can’t. They aren’t real

        7 replies 4 retweets 472 likes
      10. 23 more replies
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      2. Chad Burton‏ @burton_chad Jan 3
        Replying to @nytimes

        You could write nice things about Hugh Hefner, but you can't write nice things about a man who led one of the largest humanitarian efforts in the world? I'm not even mad, I just think you should take a long look in the mirror and consider what you celebrate/mourn over.

        27 replies 487 retweets 4,251 likes
      3. Hipster Patriarch‏ @loydo38 Jan 3
        Replying to @burton_chad @ChelsKay @nytimes

        Like when it says: "he embraced humanitarian causes with Christian, Jewish and Muslim groups supporting homeless shelters, food banks, nursing homes and disaster relief efforts in the United States and abroad." Perhaps you should read more than a tweet.

        14 replies 5 retweets 201 likes
      4. Chad Burton‏ @burton_chad Jan 3
        Replying to @loydo38 @ChelsKay @nytimes

        That was the very last paragraph of the article. The article was negative in tone, clearly. The first 4 paragraphs are all about opposition and criticism. As you know, what you put at the top of a news article becomes the focus. Reverse pyramid.

        5 replies 4 retweets 297 likes
      5. Hipster Patriarch‏ @loydo38 Jan 3
        Replying to @burton_chad @ChelsKay @nytimes

        8th: "In allowing such access, students of church policy said, Mr. Monson presided over an unprecedented era of openness about church history, while reassuring the faithful that theirs was the one true, unerring faith."

        2 replies 0 retweets 22 likes
      6. Chad Burton‏ @burton_chad Jan 3
        Replying to @loydo38 @ChelsKay @nytimes

        Cool. Just admit it was negative in tone and we can be over this silly argument, haha.

        1 reply 1 retweet 73 likes
      7. Hipster Patriarch‏ @loydo38 Jan 3
        Replying to @burton_chad @ChelsKay @nytimes

        I'm not saying it wasn't negative. They have no covenant obligation to write a hagiography, and I think it's fair to say that from the outside that Monson was ill-suited to deal with the challenges the Church faced.

        6 replies 0 retweets 36 likes
      8. Hipster Patriarch‏ @loydo38 Jan 3
        Replying to @loydo38 @burton_chad and

        Certainly much of that was due to his health, but overall Monson was probably wishing the whole time that he'd rather be a bishop directly serving individuals rather than heading a bureaucracy, and often let the bureaucracy make the poor decisions.

        3 replies 0 retweets 18 likes
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      2. Chase Observes‏ @Chase_Observes Jan 3
        Replying to @nytimes

        While the author of this article was undoubtedly doing nothing noteworthy through the majority of his 20s, Thomas S Monson was taking time out of his life to visit widows, provide humanitarian effort to untold thousands, and being an example of Christ. NYT is absolute trash.

        4 replies 16 retweets 359 likes
      3. J 🐻‏ @LilBearBeary Jan 3
        Replying to @Chase_Observes @nytimes

        Not to mention serving in the Navy for his country.

        0 replies 4 retweets 173 likes
      4. End of conversation
      1. Jesus Yanez‏ @seinundcrypto Jan 3
        Replying to @nytimes

        I'm a progressive former Mormon who doesn't agree with a lot of the Mormon doctrine but the NYT is absolute trash for doing this.

        7 replies 34 retweets 1,264 likes
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