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    The New York Times‏Verified account @nytimes 28 Nov 2017

    Snail kites rapidly evolved larger beaks and bodies to handle the bulkier snails that invaded their habitathttp://nyti.ms/2ieA4DS 

    4:32 PM - 28 Nov 2017
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      2. Lynn‏ @lccoftheisland 28 Nov 2017
        Replying to @nytimes

        Why is evolving always discussed as though the species was making conscious choices about the best attributes?

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      3. hh‏ @BinEatsBabies 28 Nov 2017
        Replying to @lccoftheisland @nytimes

        How would you have worded it? URL appears to be down, so all I have is the title and tweet, I'm case there's more I'm missing.

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      4. hh‏ @BinEatsBabies 28 Nov 2017
        Replying to @BinEatsBabies @lccoftheisland @nytimes

        Was able to open it. I think you misunderstand what they're saying, or you're reading too far into it. There's no suggestion of choice.

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      5. JH60N‏ @JH60N 28 Nov 2017
        Replying to @BinEatsBabies @lccoftheisland @nytimes

        Right. I read it as environmental conditions cause evolutionary pressure. That is, a change in snail trait caused the sub-set of the large-beaked bird to flourish, while the smaller-beaked faltered.

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      6. hh‏ @BinEatsBabies 28 Nov 2017
        Replying to @JH60N @lccoftheisland @nytimes

        Exactly. They specifically state that natural selection played a role, as large-beaked birds were able to reproduce.

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      7. Lynn‏ @lccoftheisland 28 Nov 2017
        Replying to @BinEatsBabies @JH60N @nytimes

        I took exception to the paragraph that starts by saying scientists don't know how the birds are pulling it off. Choice language is a common device in articles like this -- and really just a personal pet peeve -- which is clearly shared by no one.😐

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      8. C.A. Marino ™️‏ @CA_Marino1 28 Nov 2017
        Replying to @lccoftheisland @BinEatsBabies and

        I'm with you. Much of the language implies a conscience decision to evolve.

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      1. Susan Porter‏ @SusanPo07048868 28 Nov 2017
        Replying to @nytimes @hannaheporter

        So very interesting!

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      1. Margaret Santucci‏ @santooch93 28 Nov 2017
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        Then things looked...beak. 😂

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      1. John McGuinness, MD‏ @johnjmcgmd 28 Nov 2017
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        The beaks evolved. The kitesdid not evolve them. There was no intention there

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      1. Byron‏ @JasonByron15 30 Nov 2017
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        The beaks didn’t evolve. It was god’s plan lol

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      1. NYTscreams‏ @NYTscreams 28 Nov 2017
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        .@nytimespic.twitter.com/zWZEE7Vv05

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      1. Pelos Parados‏ @rbrtpnc 28 Nov 2017
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        Evolution, as explained, has no facts to support it, other than these scientific ones: “A long time ago,” “Somehow” “Probably” “in a murky pool” “At just the right time” “Must have occurred” etc.

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