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    The New York Times‏Verified account @nytimes 12 Nov 2017

    Spain's prime minister visited Catalonia and urged Catalans voters to defeat the independence movementhttp://nyti.ms/2yVdLKE 

    12:07 PM - 12 Nov 2017
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      2. Candemoor‏ @Candemoor3 12 Nov 2017
        Replying to @nytimes

        Thanks to major personalities of the EU for highlighting that the respect for the Rule of Law "is not an option" and if the Law "does not give you what you want, you can oppose the Law, you can work to change the Law, but you cannot ignore the Law."

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      1. Pere Vilanova  🇳🇫 路贝勒‏ @Pere_Vilanova 12 Nov 2017
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        Well its like the first time he comes to the Catalan colony in the last years, so I dont think people trust him at all

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      2. Montse Rosa‏ @MontseTat 12 Nov 2017
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        King of corruption visited Catalonia....my God....👎 we will win, AGAIN, the independent vote on 21st december 🖒 Freedom for politic prisioners!!! 🎗

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      1. Antoni Lluis‏ @AntoniLluis1 13 Nov 2017
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        PM Rajoy has been pointed on court as black money receptor a week ago. . . And anything happened.!!!! #freedom #llibertat #referendum #Catalonia #República #nomorespanishmonarchy #stupidpatriotism #rottensystempic.twitter.com/e6izEZjVZU

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      1. XaVi Giró #27o2017 🎗‏ @xavigiro 12 Nov 2017
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        BTW, it looks significant to me that he did not even leave the train station during his visit. His speech was in the hotel of the Sants station itself.

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      2. Latin EuroStates‏ @Eurozonian 12 Nov 2017
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        "both Mr. #Rajoy and Mr. García #Albiol highlighted the negative financial consequences of the secessionist conflict and assured Catalan voters that they would help return the region to economic health by beating the separatist parties next month."👈 #Catalonia

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      3. XaVier //*\\‏ @XSerres 12 Nov 2017
        Replying to @Eurozonian @nytimes

        They forgot to say those companies moved after Spanish government changed in 2 days a law for them to do it...everything normal...

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      1. Montserrat  🎗‏ @Montserrat1122 12 Nov 2017
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        Spain's prime Minister altogether with many members of his political party are under investigation for corruption. Yesterday in Barcelona there was one of the most amazing demonstrations in Europe to claim for the realease of imprisoned Catalan MPs.pic.twitter.com/SiU3bxyAUF

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      1. Xavi P  🎗‏ @xpm_666 12 Nov 2017
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        Yes, he visited Catalonia, but no one see him on streets and anywhere with people and citizens, besause a very few people in Catalonia agrees the illegal seize of instituitions

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      2. Alexander Bain‏ @bain88_bain 12 Nov 2017
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        How is that a fair fight? You criminalised the main opposition then you call it democracy? How?

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      3. David Benyajin‏ @dabeny 12 Nov 2017
        Replying to @bain88_bain @nytimes

        Well, when a minority parliament declare first illegal rules for an illegal vote. Then the patriots escape the country and then the ones who remain say it was symbolic. What do you expect the legitimate gov might do?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Alexander Bain‏ @bain88_bain 13 Nov 2017
        Replying to @dabeny @nytimes

        Your reply is incoherent. Why prevent the referendum in the first place? That’s is not an ethical, moral or democratic thing to do, is it? Yes, declaring unilateral independence was wrong, but to build a consensus requires negotiations not incriminations.

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      5. David Benyajin‏ @dabeny 13 Nov 2017
        Replying to @bain88_bain @nytimes

        If there had to b a referendum it had to bedone legally. Not just because extremists in parliament wanted to do so. It seems though as if the separatists have forgotten that there's an estatut and a constitution. You do not negotiate under the law, you abide by its purview.

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      6. Alexander Bain‏ @bain88_bain 13 Nov 2017
        Replying to @dabeny @nytimes

        I agree like I said that acting unilaterally didn’t help their cause, but we are talking about building peaceful consensus one way or another. It’s a contradiction in terms to coerce consensus.

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      7. David Benyajin‏ @dabeny 13 Nov 2017
        Replying to @bain88_bain @nytimes

        Rajoy hasn't been trying to force concensus. The separatists first hit with an illegal law to bring a referendum, that some claim was binding others symbolic. Then d patriots escape leaving chaos behind. How nice to suffer in EU. Just like Washington n the founding fathers eh.

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