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    The New York Times‏Verified account @nytimes 9 Aug 2017

    A Maryland city is considering allowing noncitizens to vote in local elections, a proposal with precedenthttp://nyti.ms/2vFVXRy 

    9:02 PM - 9 Aug 2017
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      1. Lore‏ @LOREinFlorida 9 Aug 2017
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        Not good

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      2. Brendon‏ @3662brendon 9 Aug 2017
        Replying to @nytimes @familyunequal

        Any constituency where non-citizens make up a significant part of the population needs their input to run a functioning democracy.

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      3. Chris Strosser‏ @rescuetruth 9 Aug 2017
        Replying to @3662brendon @nytimes @familyunequal

        This is not the United Nations, it's the United States. Input is fine (e.g. call, email, etc.), but voting is a privilege for citizens.

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      4. Brendon‏ @3662brendon 9 Aug 2017
        Replying to @rescuetruth @nytimes @familyunequal

        Voting is how democracy works, if it's a privilege of a fraction of the population it's not democracy. At a local level, this is fine...

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      5. Brendon‏ @3662brendon 9 Aug 2017
        Replying to @3662brendon @rescuetruth and

        At a national level, if a significant population isn't able to vote, granting citizenship is the easier obvious solution.

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      6. Chris Strosser‏ @rescuetruth 9 Aug 2017
        Replying to @3662brendon @nytimes @familyunequal

        If a person wants to become an American, and values free speech, equal rights for all, etc., I say, have at it. Apply & become a citizen!

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Brendon‏ @3662brendon 9 Aug 2017
        Replying to @rescuetruth @nytimes @familyunequal

        I feel in "liberal democratic" countries citizenship should be far easier to achieve, and if it were easier this might not be important.

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      2. Vicie Ree‏ @auntie_social 9 Aug 2017
        Replying to @nytimes

        This makes no sense. Voting is a privilege of citizenship. Felons can't even vote. I don't get??

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      3. Angel Rossi‏ @AngellRossi 9 Aug 2017
        Replying to @auntie_social @nytimes

        Arguably, voting is input into the rules that govern you (taxation without representation). If I live in X, pay taxes, then why not?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Vicie Ree‏ @auntie_social 9 Aug 2017
        Replying to @AngellRossi @nytimes

        Interesting, I see your point, but I hesitate to agree with allowing undocumented/illegals when we do not allow reformed felons to vote.

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      5. Vicie Ree‏ @auntie_social 9 Aug 2017
        Replying to @auntie_social @AngellRossi @nytimes

        And I do not mean to imply that undocumented are felons, but they are here illegally regardless of their character.

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      6. Angel Rossi‏ @AngellRossi 9 Aug 2017
        Replying to @auntie_social @nytimes

        Yeah, I see the problem there. But assuming it's limited to green card holders/residency permit holders, I think there's an argument

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      7. Vicie Ree‏ @auntie_social 9 Aug 2017
        Replying to @AngellRossi @nytimes

        I can agree with that! Many of my 'visa' friends know more about our politics, and its most interesting to engage them in discussions.

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      2. Samantha Greene‏ @dptofinjustice 9 Aug 2017
        Replying to @nytimes

        Good. There's no reason long-time green card holders shouldn't participate in the democratic process.

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      3. Chris Strosser‏ @rescuetruth 9 Aug 2017
        Replying to @dptofinjustice @nytimes

        They can already contribute to the process. Non-citizens: freedom of speech Permanent green card: donations Citizen: voting rights

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      4. Samantha Greene‏ @dptofinjustice 9 Aug 2017
        Replying to @rescuetruth @nytimes

        You're just explaining the current system. Why shouldn't lawful permanent residents who have been here for many years vote?

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      1. Sandusky‏ @PennStateRaper 9 Aug 2017
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        Another reason for the Electoral College

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      1. James‏ @james___2016 9 Aug 2017
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        What could go wrong.

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