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    The New York Times‏Verified account @nytimes 6 Aug 2017

    Opinion: When 50-year-old women are kicked out of their jobs, HR never admits it's age-related. But it is.http://nyti.ms/2vCuL5C 

    11:15 AM - 6 Aug 2017
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      2. PD Collins‏ @LilDocCollins 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @nytimes

        Let's talk about how women over 50 are 'unfuckable', thus unemployable in this patriarchal society.

        4 replies 0 retweets 19 likes
      3. Joe Volk‏ @seppy62 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @LilDocCollins @nytimes

        Apparently, traditional discrimination is an employer's right unless its against the white, christian, straight male.

        1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
      4. PD Collins‏ @LilDocCollins 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @seppy62 @nytimes

        A manager to me after giving my big money shifts to a new male hire. "You don't need the money, you have ____ at home." OUT LOUD.

        1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
      5. Claire‏ @JemmsCee2 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @LilDocCollins @seppy62 @nytimes

        Mary Tyler Moore dealt with that in her show decades ago, yet still those attitudes persist.

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      6. PD Collins‏ @LilDocCollins 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @JemmsCee2 @seppy62 @nytimes

        She and @MarloThomas taught me, I didn't have to have a husband to have my own apartment. Truly groundbreaking for a boomer girl.

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      7. Claire‏ @JemmsCee2 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @LilDocCollins @seppy62 and

        Absolutely! We were more alert and effective then, I think. Now women let it all wash over them, not seeing that they risk drowning.

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      8. Claire‏ @JemmsCee2 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @JemmsCee2 @LilDocCollins and

        I'm glad you're discussing it because younger woman have no idea the changes we brought on; they must keep the push up & not lose, again.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      9. PD Collins‏ @LilDocCollins 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @JemmsCee2 @seppy62 and

        We have to remember the shot gun weddings and forced adoptions before 1973.

        0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      10. End of conversation
      1. New conversation
      2. Gail Tolstoi-Miller‏ @GailTolstoiMill 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @nytimes

        Ageism is the biggest form of discrimination I see in hiring and its overt and accepted in corporate america

        2 replies 4 retweets 32 likes
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      4. Gail Tolstoi-Miller‏ @GailTolstoiMill 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @Gapeach70 @nytimes

        It is. It's justified or covered up in various ways.

        0 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
      5. End of conversation
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      2. Bjorn Igar‏ @bjorn_igar 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @nytimes @jaytay777

        My old employer offered seniors an early retirement option. So many left they had to hire many back at independent consultant rates.

        1 reply 4 retweets 10 likes
      3. Woman Voter‏ @WomanVote 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @bjorn_igar @nytimes @jaytay777

        Its due to #healthCare costs. Why I support @RepJohnConyers's #HR676 25 pgs, the Public Option contains costs and covers #veterans locally.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Savvy_Mom‏ @oSavvy_One 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @WomanVote @bjorn_igar and

        My last employer only hired women who were married because of this. They felt that 'for sure' the man was responsible and she'd be covered.

        1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
      5. Woman Voter‏ @WomanVote 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @oSavvy_One @bjorn_igar and

        Everyone regardless of party must DEMAND access to affordable #HealthCare. Why I support @RepJohnConyers's #HR676 The Public Option!

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
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      2. Michael Wozney‏ @michaelwozney 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @nytimes

        HR has nothing to admit... managers make the decision that hire or fire. Stop blaming HR for managers making bad decisions...🤔

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Gail Tolstoi-Miller‏ @GailTolstoiMill 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @michaelwozney @nytimes

        HR is partially responsible. Its HR job to make sure there is no discrimination. They need to police Ageism in their company.

        3 replies 1 retweet 11 likes
      4. Michael Wozney‏ @michaelwozney 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @GailTolstoiMill @nytimes

        No its HR's responsibility to educate and to oversee performance issue process. The firing decison is 100 % the managers

        3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Gail Tolstoi-Miller‏ @GailTolstoiMill 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @michaelwozney @nytimes

        But if they know an employee is not being hired or fired due to age they need to address it. HR can stop firing if manager is discriminating

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      6. Michael Wozney‏ @michaelwozney 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @GailTolstoiMill @nytimes

        That's my point HR is responsible for the process and not the decision. Real issue is poor managers should be fired for such decisions.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Gail Tolstoi-Miller‏ @GailTolstoiMill 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @michaelwozney @nytimes

        yes but HR must be involved. Managers do make the decisions but HR must be checks & balances that can stop the Managers decision

        2 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
      8. Savvy_Mom‏ @oSavvy_One 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @GailTolstoiMill @michaelwozney @nytimes

        I've seen 'uppers' head & staff HR intentionally with inexperienced, in want of training, no-nothings. #discrimination #HiringFiring

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      9. Savvy_Mom‏ @oSavvy_One 6 Aug 2017
        Replying to @oSavvy_One @GailTolstoiMill and

        IE 'must be able to lift 20 pounds' - is this really priority for corporate officers?

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      10. End of conversation

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