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    The New York Times‏Verified account @nytimes 30 Jul 2017

    Mother of Children, My Goat, My Weak One. These are some of the terms Afghan men use to refer to their wives.http://nyti.ms/2uKuVaj 

    7:45 AM - 30 Jul 2017
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    164 replies 488 retweets 477 likes
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      2. Papa Ish‏ @ismailkidd 30 Jul 2017
        Replying to @nytimes

        BOO, Doll, Ol Lady, Old Ball&Chain, Boo, My Bitch, Cinderella, Hot Stuff, Hot Mama, Baby Mama, Cutie, Cutie Pie, Babe, Bae?? NYT U reachingpic.twitter.com/rdAVQnZmi9

        3 replies 88 retweets 79 likes
      3. Papa Ish‏ @ismailkidd 30 Jul 2017
        Replying to @ismailkidd @nytimes

        Sugar, Babylicious, kitten, Kitty, wifey, Mother Of My Children, Hot Stuff, Buttercup, Main Squeeze, little woman, hussy, Chicken head,pic.twitter.com/pQGHzCxlfx

        1 reply 1 retweet 20 likes
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      2. Michele Tomeo‏ @MichTomeo 30 Jul 2017
        Replying to @nytimes

        Ah and I guess "goat" is not "greatest of all time" huh?

        2 replies 2 retweets 12 likes
      3. Oligwopoly‏ @oligwopoly 30 Jul 2017
        Replying to @MichTomeo @nytimes

        Haha great 😂

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Shakuntela TROLL IN CHIEF‏ @shakuntelaonly 30 Jul 2017
        Replying to @oligwopoly @MichTomeo @nytimes

        No one calls his wife a goat. They made that one up. Western media is sick

        0 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
      5. End of conversation
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      2. Quartzion‏ @quartzion55 30 Jul 2017
        Replying to @nytimes

        It's important for us as English speakers not to get too caught up in the direct translations of these words, as context is key w language

        4 replies 2 retweets 23 likes
      3. wajib ul cuddle‏ @UpUpandAwai 30 Jul 2017
        Replying to @quartzion55 @nytimes

        I am a Pakistani, my mother tongue is Pashto (Afghani language), we'd consider calling our wives goats an insult. Trust me, this is fucked.

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      4. Quartzion‏ @quartzion55 30 Jul 2017
        Replying to @UpUpandAwai @nytimes

        I'm not implying that these aren't insulting words or that these women aren't being abused, but that we shouldn't whitewash their experience

        1 reply 1 retweet 0 likes
      5. wajib ul cuddle‏ @UpUpandAwai 30 Jul 2017
        Replying to @quartzion55 @nytimes

        I know there are cases of whitewashing in western media at times but I can tell you this one isn't.

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      6. Quartzion‏ @quartzion55 30 Jul 2017
        Replying to @UpUpandAwai @nytimes

        Look, I don't deny that the treatment of these women is abhorrent. My point is that it is not the job of the west to police other cultures.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      7. End of conversation
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      2. Hunting_Hunters‏ @eparitosh 30 Jul 2017
        Replying to @nytimes

        Shame on Afghan Muslim men for using such demean words to call their own wives. Where are Educated Muslim women hiding??

        3 replies 2 retweets 5 likes
      3. sangeeta singh 🇮🇳‏ @sangeetasingh77 30 Jul 2017
        Replying to @eparitosh @MuralikrishnaE1 @nytimes

        Disgusting. Women won't protest because girls never go to school. Taliban has kept them illiterate so that they remain submissive.

        1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
      4. Shakuntela TROLL IN CHIEF‏ @shakuntelaonly 30 Jul 2017
        Replying to @sangeetasingh77 @eparitosh and

        Uh no one had called me these names. Especially goat. It's the Western media making this shit up

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Hunting_Hunters‏ @eparitosh 30 Jul 2017
        Replying to @shakuntelaonly @sangeetasingh77 and

        Goat has a special place with respect for physical pleasure in Islam..& it's still on. We can't blame Western media for all silly things.

        1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
      6. End of conversation
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      2. Amy WTW‏ @toxicorange66 30 Jul 2017
        Replying to @nytimes

        Pence calls his wife 'Mother.'

        4 replies 0 retweets 29 likes
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      2. marwa khebbeb‏ @MarwaKhebbeb 30 Jul 2017
        Replying to @nytimes

        yeah that Goat part isn't just limited to Afghanistan they here to (Algeria).

        2 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
      3.  🇦🇫khalid khan 🇦🇫‏ @khalid_khan6 30 Jul 2017
        Replying to @MarwaKhebbeb @nytimes

        In my 20 years life i didn't heared word goat for women in any part of Afghanistan yet !!!!!

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. S_Wardak‏ @tsnaimi16 30 Jul 2017
        Replying to @khalid_khan6 @MarwaKhebbeb @nytimes

        But ( حيوانان مي) is common

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5.  🇦🇫khalid khan 🇦🇫‏ @khalid_khan6 30 Jul 2017
        Replying to @tsnaimi16 @MarwaKhebbeb @nytimes

        Tht is not ( حيوانان مي) it is ایوانان which refers to childrens .. Hope the world wil understod tht we r suffering frm 40 years !!

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. S_Wardak‏ @tsnaimi16 30 Jul 2017
        Replying to @khalid_khan6 @MarwaKhebbeb @nytimes

        It pronounces like tht but real word is حيوان which refer to wife and kids

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      7.  🇦🇫khalid khan 🇦🇫‏ @khalid_khan6 30 Jul 2017
        Replying to @tsnaimi16 @MarwaKhebbeb @nytimes

        ایوان refer to childrens only in our language ...which some r using for wife as wel nick name for mother of childens (ایوانانو) مور

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      8. End of conversation

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