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    The New York Times‏Verified account @nytimes Oct 30

    Breaking News: President Trump said he was preparing an executive order to end birthright citizenship. It is unclear whether he can do so unilaterally.https://nyti.ms/2CQnbYD 

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      1. The New York Times‏Verified account @nytimes Oct 30

        Constitutional scholars agree: Any child born in the U.S. is automatically a citizen. Any action by President Trump would face legal challenges.https://nyti.ms/2DcCsnD 

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      2. Caroline Mala Corbin‏ @CarolineMCorbin Oct 30
        Replying to @nytimes

        Dear NYT, It is not unclear whether Trump can end birthright citizenship. It is clearly prohibited by the 14th Amendment: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States...are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." -Your friendly conlaw prof

        54 replies 418 retweets 1,605 likes
      3. Caroline Mala Corbin‏ @CarolineMCorbin Oct 30
        Replying to @CarolineMCorbin @nytimes

        Also, the S Ct has ruled that 14th Amdt establishes birthright citizenship: "The amendment, in clear words & in manifest intent, includes the children born within the territory of the US of all other persons, of whatever race or color, domiciled w/in the US," US v. Wong Kim Ark

        9 replies 106 retweets 440 likes
      4. Caroline Mala Corbin‏ @CarolineMCorbin Oct 30
        Replying to @CarolineMCorbin @nytimes

        "To hold that the 14th Amdt... excludes from citizenship the children born in the United States of citizens or subjects of other countries, would be to deny citizenship to thousands of persons... who have always been considered and treated as citizens of the United States."

        4 replies 51 retweets 246 likes
      5. Caroline Mala Corbin‏ @CarolineMCorbin Oct 30
        Replying to @CarolineMCorbin @nytimes

        Are there exceptions to birthright citizenship?Yes:"children of foreign sovereigns or their ministers, or born on foreign public ships,or of enemies w/in & during a hostile occupation of part of our territory, & children of members of the Indian tribes owing direct allegiance..."

        7 replies 28 retweets 177 likes
      6. Caroline Mala Corbin‏ @CarolineMCorbin Oct 30
        Replying to @CarolineMCorbin @nytimes

        The Supreme Court in U.S. v. Wong Kim Art (1898) described birthright citizenship as "the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory." Around 30 other countries have it.

        6 replies 46 retweets 197 likes
      7. Caroline Mala Corbin‏ @CarolineMCorbin Oct 30
        Replying to @CarolineMCorbin @nytimes

        Some history: The citizenship provision in the 14th Amendment was specifically designed to overrule the racist Dred Scott v. Sandford decision where the Supreme Court said that African Americans, slave or free, could never become citizens.

        2 replies 48 retweets 179 likes
      8. Caroline Mala Corbin‏ @CarolineMCorbin Oct 30
        Replying to @CarolineMCorbin @nytimes

        More history: U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark (1898) was decided during an era that so hostile to the Chinese that the law than banned new Chinese immigrants to the U.S. was called simply the Chinese Exclusion Act.

        13 replies 27 retweets 130 likes
      9. Caroline Mala Corbin‏ @CarolineMCorbin Oct 30
        Replying to @CarolineMCorbin @nytimes

        A little basic conlaw: once the Supreme Court has interpreted a provision of the Constitution, its understanding can be overruled only by a constitutional amendment or another Supreme Court ruling. Not Congress. Not the President.

        12 replies 23 retweets 83 likes
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      2. Joyce‏ @JoycieDee Oct 30
        Replying to @nytimes

        What is unclear? Is that a joke? The constitution can't be changed by an executive order. End of story. He wants to be Papa Doc, dictator for life, doesn't mean we have to help him.

        9 replies 27 retweets 321 likes
      3. Andrue  ✊🏾‏ @JaJahIrie Oct 30
        Replying to @JoycieDee @nytimes

        What if he gets a Congress to amend it or his Supreme Court to uphold his EO?

        5 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
      4. Joyce‏ @JoycieDee Oct 30
        Replying to @JaJahIrie @nytimes

        He can't just get congress to amend it. Has to be ratified by 2/3 of the states. It's not instant pudding, and it was designed to be difficult.

        3 replies 16 retweets 138 likes
      5. Hieronymus McGillicuddy‏ @HieronymusMcG Oct 30
        Replying to @JoycieDee @n69n and

        Even more. 2/3 of both Houses of Congress and 3/4 of the states.

        3 replies 16 retweets 96 likes
      6. Joyce‏ @JoycieDee Oct 30
        Replying to @HieronymusMcG @n69n and

        Oops, thank you, should have checked it first.

        1 reply 0 retweets 16 likes
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      2. Tony Becker‏ @realtbecker Oct 30
        Replying to @nytimes

        Do better, NYT! The President cannot by himself end birthright citizenship. Read the 14th amendment. “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

        8 replies 20 retweets 133 likes
      3. sandy‏ @craigslistsslut Oct 30
        Replying to @realtbecker @nytimes

        Julie Davis did not just wake up and write an article out of the nowhere... this article is here become Trump said he would

        5 replies 2 retweets 17 likes
      4. Fernando Evil‏ @EvilFernando Oct 30
        Replying to @craigslistsslut @realtbecker @nytimes

        So if trump said he was repealing gravity by executive order...?

        4 replies 2 retweets 43 likes
      5. sandy‏ @craigslistsslut Oct 30
        Replying to @EvilFernando @realtbecker @nytimes

        Newton would come out his grave

        2 replies 0 retweets 41 likes
      6. Nasty Science Pussy‏ @MadSciKat Oct 30
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        @craigslistsslut @EvilFernando It's a tie for #tweetoftheday! 👍👍

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      7. sandy‏ @craigslistsslut Oct 30
        Replying to @MadSciKat @EvilFernando and

        I just realized that I replied to the wrong tweet omg it wasnt meant for the guy that blocked me “t 🎃 ny” jajaja

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