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    The New York Times‏Verified account @nytimes Oct 18

    A name "that sounds beautiful in a foreign language can be grating in English," Dear Abby wrote. Now the column — and the heated response to it — has sparked a fresh debate about identity, acceptance and inclusion.https://nyti.ms/2yLxSbs 

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      2. J Minear‏ @minear_j Oct 18
        Replying to @nytimes

        Feel free to name your kid something crazy and make it harder for them to get a job their entire life

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      3. yay.‏ @BeatrixZeit Oct 18
        Replying to @minear_j @nytimes

        By something crazy you mean not European?

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      4. J Minear‏ @minear_j Oct 18
        Replying to @BeatrixZeit @nytimes

        Yes exactly

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      5. yay.‏ @BeatrixZeit Oct 18
        Replying to @minear_j @nytimes

        Thanks. Just making sure I understand your prejudices.

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      7. yay.‏ @BeatrixZeit Oct 18
        Replying to @minear_j @nytimes

        So America is not a great country. Could you give me examples of why America is not great?

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      8. J Minear‏ @minear_j Oct 18
        Replying to @BeatrixZeit @nytimes

        America used to build amazing things like The Empire State Building, Hoover Dam, and Panama Canal. We were so ambitious we sent men to the moon. Today we're sending men into the ladies room. We need to go back to Making America Great Again.

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      9. Nils Headley‏ @NilsHeadley Oct 20
        Replying to @minear_j @BeatrixZeit @nytimes

        Now we make trolls.

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      1. Progressive Snowflake  ❄ 🌊 📢‏ @esdavis Oct 18
        Replying to @nytimes

        The act that dear Abbey still runs in newspapers is mind boggling

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      2. Polynerdity‏ @polynerdity Oct 18
        Replying to @nytimes

        As someone with an oddball name, I can say it’s important for parents to remember that your name is a part of your identity and can impact your personality and image. Be respectful of that. A kid’s name shouldn’t be you expressing your “creative vision” or a political statement.

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      3. ThePeopleAreThePower‏ @Queenie_Netra Oct 18
        Replying to @polynerdity @nytimes

        I agree

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      1. Carrie La Seur‏Verified account @claseur Oct 18
        Replying to @nytimes

        Americans having trouble with names unlike theirs is as old as America. We know Red Cloud and Crazy Horse instead of their real, untranslated names. To this day no one can spell or pronounce my last name, which has been on this continent >300 years. Have you met America?

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      1. Larry Gorkin‏ @LarryGorkin1 Oct 18
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        If your name is Pauline Esther Friedman Phillips, necessary to change to say...Abigail van Buren- a bit more goyish. Could have gone with Ester- gentile chemicals? But you stayed with Phillips, my dear... - Dear Abby's daughter: A name by any other name...https://nyti.ms/2yLxSbs 

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      2. Patrick Gatti‏ @patrickdgatti Oct 18
        Replying to @nytimes

        It is deeply perverse that a parent would make a politcal statement at the expense of his or her child’s future. Certain duties come first. If the child, as an adult, insists on a statement fine.

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      3. Patricia Schwarz‏ @TessEractica Oct 19
        Replying to @patrickdgatti @nytimes

        Patrick is an "English" name in America by now, but in England it still points you out as Irish and you could be mocked by current #Brexit Conservatives who appear to be trying to revoke the "white card" from the Irish. It's politics and your name is in it.

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      4. Patrick Gatti‏ @patrickdgatti Oct 19
        Replying to @TessEractica @nytimes

        I have no idea why you think your comment is relevant to anything.

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      5. Patricia Schwarz‏ @TessEractica Oct 19
        Replying to @patrickdgatti @nytimes

        To some people, your given name "Patrick" is a political statement. If you read Irish history you'll understand why.

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      6. Patrick Gatti‏ @patrickdgatti Oct 19
        Replying to @TessEractica @nytimes

        Again I am unsure that has to do with anything. The article is not about Irish names in England. I do not understand why a parent would knowingly place his or her child at a disadvantage in life. Just seems like someh if you wouldn’t do.

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      7. Patricia Schwarz‏ @TessEractica Oct 19
        Replying to @patrickdgatti @nytimes

        An Irish parent who gave a child an Irish name was placing that child at a disadvantage when England was running Ireland as a colony. In that context, simply giving Irish kids Irish names became a political statement that did place them at a disadvantage.

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      1. Alex "The Hatman" Baldwin‏ @TheHat2 Oct 18
        Replying to @nytimes

        >“The practical effect of that is nobody calls them that . . . So they end up with some truncated name that is Anglicized any way.” Pretty much. I actually went to school with a dude named Ikechukwu, but everyone called him Ike.

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