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    The New York Times‏Verified account @nytimes Oct 17

    "Our definitions matter to us.” The anger so many Native Americans feel about Elizabeth Warren's DNA test is about what it means to be Native American — and who gets to decide.https://nyti.ms/2yJltEN 

    12:40 PM - 17 Oct 2018
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      2. Peter Savas  🏳️‍🌈‏ @petesavas Oct 17
        Replying to @nytimes

        Why is it people can't understand she's not CLAIMING to be Native American. She's just saying that somewhere back in her ancestry, there was someone who had Native American blood, which validates the story her mother told her. This shouldn't turn into identity politics.

        41 replies 12 retweets 97 likes
      3. Peter Savas  🏳️‍🌈‏ @petesavas Oct 17
        Replying to @petesavas @nytimes

        It's like me claiming to have some Turkish blood. I am Greek-American, and claim to be Greek, and my DNA test shows I'm of majority Greek descent, but there is some Turkish blood in there too; my great-grandmother on my mother's side was Turkish. It's not that hard.

        9 replies 3 retweets 27 likes
      4. Vincent Grasso‏ @VincentGrasso1 Oct 17
        Replying to @petesavas @nytimes

        "Harvard Law School in the 1990s touted Warren, then a professor in Cambridge, as being "Native American." They singled her out, Warren later acknowledged, because she had listed herself as a minority in an Association of American Law Schools directory. "

        2 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
      5. Joe Milutis‏ @FailureAWLife Oct 17
        Replying to @VincentGrasso1 @petesavas @nytimes

        Not truehttps://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/09/01/did-claiming-native-american-heritage-actually-help-elizabeth-warren-get-ahead-but-complicated/wUZZcrKKEOUv5Spnb7IO0K/story.html …

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. Jack Holst‏ @JackPHolst Oct 17
        Replying to @FailureAWLife @VincentGrasso1 and

        It is true, she just denies that she benefited from it.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      7. Peter Savas  🏳️‍🌈‏ @petesavas Oct 17
        Replying to @JackPHolst @FailureAWLife and

        It is not. Read this piece on @CNN and you'll see it's not true. They de-bunk it, in fact.https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/16/politics/elizabeth-warren-donald-trump-pocahontas/index.html …

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. End of conversation
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      2. Bluebird‏ @Bluebird4us Oct 17
        Replying to @nytimes

        Direct your anger to the Pres. who mocked her for being proud of her heritage however small you think it is. Be angry at Trump for birtherism. Elizabeth Warren is your friend.

        5 replies 0 retweets 25 likes
      3. adkam94‏ @JediNavyMom Oct 17
        Replying to @Bluebird4us @nytimes

        Agreed. He's garbage for always trashing people. She should've ignored him, but she let him get to her and its brought more attention than needed, to this issue.

        3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      4. Bluebird‏ @Bluebird4us Oct 17
        Replying to @JediNavyMom

        I wish she had let it go but Trump was never going to let it go just like he did with Obama's birth certificate. Maybe it will go away in a few days.

        0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      5. End of conversation
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      2. Midwesternmama2‏ @MidwesternMama2 Oct 17
        Replying to @nytimes

        How about anger at the GOP for suppressing their voting in states like North Dakota

        5 replies 5 retweets 29 likes
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      2. tony cruz‏ @antlive327 Oct 17
        Replying to @nytimes

        Getting angry at a person who can help your cause seems counter productive to me.

        6 replies 1 retweet 17 likes
      3. SoutheastNative‏ @SoutheastNative Oct 17
        Replying to @antlive327 @nytimes

        How does it help our cause to appropriate our identity? How does it help our cause to promote a false perception of our identity, minimizing Native identity to mere genetics and diminishing the importance of tribal sovereignty?

        3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      5. SoutheastNative‏ @SoutheastNative Oct 18
        Replying to @KateGilligan4 @antlive327 @nytimes

        She identified herself in a published book as “a Cherokee”. She listed herself as “Native American” in the AALS Directory. That is appropriating Cherokee Identity and Native identity. She may have changed her diction now, but don’t pretend she never appropriated our identity.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. SoutheastNative‏ @SoutheastNative Oct 18
        Replying to @SoutheastNative @KateGilligan4 and

        Even though she has stopped calling herself Cherokee and Native American, she still claims to have “Native American heritage”. Heritage is something passed down, not something you find on a geneticist’s report.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. SoutheastNative‏ @SoutheastNative Oct 18
        Replying to @SoutheastNative @KateGilligan4 and

        Here is her appropriation of Cherokee identity.pic.twitter.com/mcA1EDhKQB

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      8. SoutheastNative‏ @SoutheastNative Oct 18
        Replying to @SoutheastNative @KateGilligan4 and

        Here is her appropriation of Native identity. She changed her racial classification from white to Native American in 1989 while employed at the University of Pennsylvania.pic.twitter.com/ySUyu7vDs4

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      9. SoutheastNative‏ @SoutheastNative Oct 18
        Replying to @SoutheastNative @KateGilligan4 and

        Here she is listed as a “woman of color”, which was taken from the AALS Directory. In 2012 Alethea Harney, Warren’s campaign press secretary, confirmed that Warren self-identified as Native American in the AALS.pic.twitter.com/OT8eelC0Qc

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
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      2. buckleystuff‏ @buckleystuff Oct 17
        Replying to @nytimes

        Ok. She has NEVER CLAIMED TO BE NATIVE AMERICAN! She HAS claimed to have Native American ancestry. Which she has. She claims to be a Senator, a former Harvard Professor, a white woman, and an Oklahoman. The rest is noise and distraction.

        11 replies 1 retweet 29 likes
      3. Spaghetti Legs‏ @hellsquire Oct 17
        Replying to @buckleystuff @nytimes

        I suggest you read this:https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1996/10/22/survey-diversity-lacking-at-hls-pa/ …

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      4. Spaghetti Legs‏ @hellsquire Oct 17
        Replying to @hellsquire @buckleystuff @nytimes

        Short version: at Harvard she claimed she was Native American. Not “Native American heritage” or “Native American ancestry,” or whatever spin she’s putting on it now. Just “Native American.”pic.twitter.com/E0HHhuVmGW

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. buckleystuff‏ @buckleystuff Oct 17
        Replying to @hellsquire @nytimes

        Read your own quote, "CHMURA SAID..." not "Elizabeth Warren said..."

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Spaghetti Legs‏ @hellsquire Oct 17
        Replying to @buckleystuff @nytimes

        So your position is that he made it up? Haven’t heard that one yet.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. buckleystuff‏ @buckleystuff Oct 17
        Replying to @hellsquire @nytimes

        No. I'm saying that a spokesperson for Harvard took something she wrote on an ancestry form and misspoke. Claiming to have ancestry from an ethnic group is wildly different from identifying as a member of that ethnic group.

        3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Spaghetti Legs‏ @hellsquire Oct 17
        Replying to @buckleystuff @nytimes

        Tell me more about these “ancestry forms”

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      9. Spaghetti Legs‏ @hellsquire Oct 17
        Replying to @hellsquire @buckleystuff @nytimes

        https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2012/09/15/elizabeth-warren-family-native-american-heritage …pic.twitter.com/eXFcTXlx0C

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      10. End of conversation

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