Some solid points, but what Martina misses entirely is that sports ARE emotional & they should be. Does that mean all responses are justified? No, but it does mean that there needs to be room for emotion & that’s on the ref to take into account. Ramos didn’t & caused escalation.
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What you're not getting is that when Serena broke her racket it was an -automatic violation-. Ramos had no discretion. Because Serena already had a warning it was also an automatic point deduction for which Ramos also had no discretion.
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That is categorically incorrect as has already been displayed throughout the entirety of the internet that has now seen a plethora of racquet breaks from Murray, Djokovich & Federer without warnings. Again, the problem is no one really knows the rules, which is a shame.
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Are you saying that men break rackets and don't get a violation? Can you point to a specific instance where that wasn't the case? It's my understanding that it's an automatic violation. First violation is a warning. Second is a point. Third is a game
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See, this is the problem: you’re speaking like you know the sport, but asking me for examples of things you would have already known existed if you truly knew what you were speaking about. And, therein lies the problem— the Trumpism of America. If you don’t know, don’t speak.
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Nice deflection, so you can't. Oh look - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/09/sports/tennis/serena-williams-umpire-carlos-ramos-us-open.html … Turns out Ramos has OFFICIATED GAMES FOR SERENA BEFORE. And oh look, there weren't any issues.
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And oh, look, huge names in men's tennis have complained about Ramos because he's tough. Once again, I'm right. People are trying to make this about tennis writ large, but in this case, with this official, there's just no proof.
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There’s you, then there’s tennis... actual players who have spent decades on the court. I’m with them. Let’s go to Andy on this one...pic.twitter.com/4ZbGFqK2go
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@Martina gives enough weight to Serena's apparent sincere view that her integrity had been attacked by the coaching violation call. From the tennis rule book standpoint, okay, perhaps whether she saw Patrick's signals or not is irrelevant. From a human POV... -
Rules are rules. If the judge did not apply them it would have been unfair to Naomi. It is what it is
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A) If the coaching rule were consistently enforced, none of the matches at the US Open would ever have been completed. B) Rules are there to serve a higher good, the fairness and integrity of competition. They aren't the highest end in themselves.
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A) That is a blatant lie. B) Rules are there to regulate a process, judges are there to make sure there is compliance/adhesion in a process. Judges may not have the same criteria, however, not applying basic rules shows simply that some judges do not do their job correctly.
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1/2 This is the rule: "Communication of any kind, audible or visible, between a Player and a coach may be construed as coaching." Eye contact between a player & coach could be construed as "coaching" consistently w/ rule. If refs actually did this, matches would be unplayable.
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That's your interpretation. "Coaching is considered to be communication, advice or instruction of any kind and by any means to a player." Eye contact without instruction , is just that, eye contact. You would be broke as an attorney.
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1/2 Thanks for your concern but I think I would be fine. The rulebook at one point says coaching is "strategic, tactical, and emotional advice" & among people who are close, a mere look..to say nothing of a raised eyebrow, nod, frown, smile... may constitute "emotional advice."
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How many straws did you clutch with that one
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No matter how white women try (as the author & many of us do -mightily) we don't fully get racism's toll. Ump's 1st call - just the latest cut. The post-birth outfit fracas/history noted here/1000 cuts not known to us. Until this shifts? "Conduct" is Tennis establment's problem.
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Rubbish, I am a black woman and understand the article very well. How about dealing with the Saturday tennis game. Rules are rules. Serena was rude. End of story. Stop making excuses.
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That’s exactly what I’ve been saying. She was rude. Also, two wrongs don’t make a right. I am black also.
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Sorry, I am not. Why would you say such a dumb thing, because I expressed my opinion. Suppose I was to say you are a BOT.
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