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    The New York Times‏Verified account @nytimes Jul 18

    "Simpsons" creator Matt Groening: "I think particularly right now, people feel so aggrieved and crazed and powerless that they're picking the wrong battles."https://nyti.ms/2L2KEeo 

    8:17 AM - 18 Jul 2018
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      1. New conversation
      2. Tommy‏ @CThompson1683 Jul 18
        Replying to @nytimes

        Maybe, the most important battles for wealthy white men are not always the most important battles for the poor and/or minorities.

        18 replies 35 retweets 747 likes
      3. Sound Out Loud‏ @SoundOutLoud Jul 18
        Replying to @CThompson1683 @nytimes

        Or maybe identity politics is divisive(clearly important to white males on the right) and being used to tear society apart because most people dont know the difference between justice and equity so they cannot effectively counter criticism of supposed hippocracy from the right...

        4 replies 0 retweets 33 likes
      4.  🌒J isn't going away‏ @paraempathetic Jul 18
        Replying to @SoundOutLoud @CThompson1683 @nytimes

        The whole argument against so-called "identity politics" appears to revolve around allowing ppl who don't know or won't admit that they have racist/sexist/xenophobic/etc. beliefs to pretend that no one else sees those issues as serious problems in order to win their votes. Nah.

        5 replies 22 retweets 350 likes
      5. NiCK SETTE‏ @neeko1979 Jul 18
        Replying to @paraempathetic @SoundOutLoud and

        The whole argument for it seems to revolve asserting that any members of historically oppressed groups are by definition free from all those very same isms to pretend that no one else can speak to any disagreement on those issues.

        4 replies 0 retweets 23 likes
      6.  🌒J isn't going away‏ @paraempathetic Jul 18
        Replying to @neeko1979 @SoundOutLoud and

        I'm not sure who's pretending that's true. I think some of the confusion stems from terminology, perceived degrees of systematic oppression, & uncertainty about what should be done / how ppl should feel. I have shit to do, so I'm going to leave 1 & 2 for now. 3 is when the big

        2 replies 0 retweets 18 likes
      7.  🌒J isn't going away‏ @paraempathetic Jul 18
        Replying to @paraempathetic @neeko1979 and

        feelings come in for many ppl, & those seem to trend toward guilt, denial, & anger. First 2 are useless, & the last is only useful if it's directed at dismantling inequitable systems. Use what you have to lift others up, & they'll likely do the same for you. No one has to fall.

        2 replies 1 retweet 16 likes
      8.  🌒J isn't going away‏ @paraempathetic Jul 18
        Replying to @paraempathetic @neeko1979 and

        I will tackle 1 & 2 tomorrow.

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      9. NiCK SETTE‏ @neeko1979 Jul 18
        Replying to @paraempathetic @SoundOutLoud and

        I mean this in the kindest way possible- please don't 😁

        3 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
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      2. Sanjiv Bhattacharya‏ @sanjivbee Jul 18
        Replying to @nytimes

        Just have to say, as an Indian, that Apu doesn't offend me at all. The accent's dodgy, but the character's sweet and lovable and decent and human. A "minority view" on this thread, I see, but hey. (See what I did there?)

        11 replies 5 retweets 145 likes
      3. Crabette‏ @Jag_SSB Jul 18
        Replying to @sanjivbee @nytimes

        Yes, you are a minority in that you're one of the few Indians on twitter who don't realize that virtue signaling to Whites is not in your best interest in the long-term. Literally everyone who liked your comment is a White dude lol.

        4 replies 0 retweets 35 likes
      4. Jasmine Willow‏ @JasmineWillow2 Jul 18
        Replying to @Jag_SSB @sanjivbee @nytimes

        And they are probably using the comment as evidence that “Indians don’t have a problem with Apu.”

        3 replies 0 retweets 38 likes
      5. Sanjiv Bhattacharya‏ @sanjivbee Jul 19
        Replying to @JasmineWillow2 @Jag_SSB @nytimes

        Interesting that you think you know what's in my interest, and that you think I'm the one virtue signaling. #irony

        1 reply 0 retweets 22 likes
      6. Crabette‏ @Jag_SSB Jul 19
        Replying to @sanjivbee @JasmineWillow2 @nytimes

        There's a reason why "As an X, I am not offended" meme exists in Asian-positive circles on the internet. There's a reason why nearly everyone who liked your comment (that I checked) when you initially posted it was White. Who am I virtue signaling to?

        4 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      7. Sanjiv Bhattacharya‏ @sanjivbee Jul 19
        Replying to @Jag_SSB @JasmineWillow2 @nytimes

        Apu is an Indian character, if anyone's going to be offended by him it's principally other Indians, like me. So I'm expressing my opinion. I'm not alone either. I don't see the problem. Are you telling me I should be more offended, or I should stay silent?

        2 replies 0 retweets 16 likes
      8.  ❌VIRGO•SUPERELITE•Q6189‏ @virgo91686 Jul 19
        Replying to @sanjivbee @Jag_SSB and

        They're just telling you to think a certain way - their way. That's pretty much all the Left does.

        0 replies 1 retweet 11 likes
      9. End of conversation
      1. New conversation
      2. Derek Kerton‏ @derekkerton Jul 18
        Replying to @nytimes

        I, personally, enjoyed laughing at stereotypes, until I learned that many were not laughing with me at the racism, but we're actually laughing at the target. That's not funny. The audience often defines the art. Groening needs to learn that, too.

        11 replies 65 retweets 1,173 likes
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      2.  ⛓Huck Finn ⛓‏ @ohiospud Jul 18
        Replying to @nytimes

        Like the fundamental things that apply (one being a humble sense of humor about our shared humanity) , keep fighting the good fight, never change Matt ☮️

        2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
      3. Glenn Kenny‏ @Glenn__Kenny Jul 18
        Replying to @ohiospud @nytimes

        “Our shared humanity” that enables the powerful to enact demeaning stereotypes with complete immunity the sake of a laugh, God yes what a beautiful world.

        3 replies 0 retweets 134 likes
      4.  ⛓Huck Finn ⛓‏ @ohiospud Jul 18
        Replying to @Glenn__Kenny @nytimes

        Who raised you?

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Glenn Kenny‏ @Glenn__Kenny Jul 18
        Replying to @ohiospud

        Wolves?

        2 replies 0 retweets 50 likes
      6. Vulcan 🖖Writer ✒Mom 💁‏ @EvaChanda Jul 18
        Replying to @Glenn__Kenny @ohiospud

        Wolves are clearly more honorable & decent than most humans.

        1 reply 0 retweets 30 likes
      7. Hamilton Bell‏ @Ham66 Jul 18
        Replying to @EvaChanda @Glenn__Kenny @ohiospud

        #anthropomorphism gets you no where

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. SirAxilotl‏ @SirAxilotl Jul 19
        Replying to @Ham66 @EvaChanda and

        Tell that to literally every furry ever.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      9. Vulcan 🖖Writer ✒Mom 💁‏ @EvaChanda Jul 19
        Replying to @SirAxilotl @Ham66 and

        Your avatar is an axolotl... Are you a Slimy?? 😜

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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