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    The New York Times‏Verified account @nytimes Jul 7

    "I look forward to the day when women — single, married and otherwise — no longer need the words 'husband' and 'baby' to act as a special lemon juice squeezed over our lives in order to make them visible"https://nyti.ms/2MYOBh1 

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      2. Maria C Debernardini‏ @Debernardini Jul 7
        Replying to @nytimes

        Who wants to be alone? Especially when you are older and cranky. As much as you want to convince others we know you are not completely happy.

        15 replies 1 retweet 24 likes
      3. Martie K‏ @thisf33d Jul 7
        Replying to @Debernardini @nytimes

        Kids aren't an insurance policy for loneliness.

        2 replies 2 retweets 24 likes
      4. Maria C Debernardini‏ @Debernardini Jul 8
        Replying to @thisf33d @nytimes

        You are correct, but if you are caring and give yourself to others, family, friends, neighbors, you will never be sad in your life. The Me Me Me life style is never a good idea. In my case, the best has been to be a mother and a wife. What it is for you?

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. WeWillFigureItOut‏ @MJ_ATX Jul 8
        Replying to @Debernardini @thisf33d @nytimes

        @Debernardini YOU found what's best for YOU! Congrats! Can you not fathom that another woman can find what is a best for THEM and it look different than YOU? Stop projecting! And perhaps try a little Me sometime, I'm sure you more than deserve it.

        2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
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      2. Kent Livingston  🔥 🏹  🔔‏ @kentwlivingston Jul 7
        Replying to @nytimes

        You’re happy, great. This is a recurring type of magazine and newspaper piece. There are many story angles like this one. The topic is fine and I’m sure people are suffering as a result, but I feel like this type of story is recycled too often.pic.twitter.com/4cvLAtBZqm

        4 replies 0 retweets 22 likes
      3. Mary-Alice McNab‏ @MaryAliceMcNab Jul 7
        Replying to @kentwlivingston @nytimes

        W/ all due respect, Kent, the story is relevant. It may “feel” recycled b/c it’s relevancy resonates in many areas. Perhaps if you help change the conversation around childfree & single women being as acceptable as childfree & single males, it won’t have to be a story anymore.

        6 replies 0 retweets 53 likes
      4. GettingOverHud‏ @GettingOverHud Jul 7
        Replying to @MaryAliceMcNab @kentwlivingston @nytimes

        Where are child-free and single women not acceptable? And I’ve got news for you, society has always viewed single men of a certain age as suspect.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Mary-Alice McNab‏ @MaryAliceMcNab Jul 8
        Replying to @GettingOverHud @kentwlivingston @nytimes

        I agree with you, that single men of a certain age have always been suspect - but that age is usually in the 50s, and judgment fades after retirement. Single women are spinsters as early as 30, and just considered sad & lonely until death. It’s not the same acceptability.

        3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Kent Livingston  🔥 🏹  🔔‏ @kentwlivingston Jul 8
        Replying to @MaryAliceMcNab @GettingOverHud @nytimes

        We are all surrounded by gender inequalities, destructive misogyny, & absurd stereotypes. Exploring and pushing back against millennium of gender craziness is important. My only issue with the piece here is I’d like the editors to break new ground, go beyond what has been done.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. Mary-Alice McNab‏ @MaryAliceMcNab Jul 8
        Replying to @kentwlivingston @GettingOverHud @nytimes

        I completely understand. Thank you for engaging in a bit of civil dialogue. It is refreshing.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      8. End of conversation
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      2. Linda Soriano‏ @Polaraven60 Jul 7
        Replying to @nytimes

        I'm with you only 25 yrs older. I used to get that crap all the time. Finally started telling people I despised children.

        3 replies 0 retweets 15 likes
      3. Chris Vidal‏ @EMPR_Jack Jul 7
        Replying to @Polaraven60 @nytimes

        I'm curious. I know a friend that despises children, but loves his own. might this apply to you as well?

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. steph  🍂 GIRAFFE TODAY  🦒 ♥️‏ @thedoorgal Jul 7
        Replying to @EMPR_Jack @Polaraven60 @nytimes

        OH MY GOD someone is 65 years old and they say they don’t like children then THEY DONT LIKE CHILDREN. This is honestly pretty insulting like, “Do you think you’d like your own children?” as if the thought never occurred to them 🙄🙄

        2 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
      5. Linda Soriano‏ @Polaraven60 Jul 7
        Replying to @thedoorgal @EMPR_Jack @nytimes

        Children are fine for folks who want -- and like -- them. I'm just not one of those people. And, no, I don't think I would have necessarily liked my own kids. Just being female doesn't make a person good mommy material.

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
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      2. Cheekyredhead, AA, BA‏ @Cheekyredhead1 Jul 7
        Replying to @nytimes

        I’m in my 50’s, for me though it’s the pitying looks and comments about it being to late. Thankfully not from anyone who knows me well. I’m the happiest I’ve ever been. If anyone doesn’t believe me then to bad for them.

        3 replies 0 retweets 21 likes
      3. Rocket Mand‏ @ACCOX_artist Jul 8
        Replying to @Cheekyredhead1 @nytimes

        47 and mum to cats, that's enough work!

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
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      2. LA LA IN THE LIBRARY - Everyone's Crazy Aunt‏ @LaLasBookStuff Jul 7
        Replying to @nytimes @erinrain

        Hmm... I have been seeing the opposite over the last few years, at least as far as having a baby is concerned. Moms seem to be the invisible ones now with single career women being lauded.

        1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
      3. erinrain‏ @erinrain Jul 8
        Replying to @LaLasBookStuff @nytimes

        Hmmm indeed... I appreciate the author sharing her story... but there’s more to it.

        0 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
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