.@mjtsai I think the problem you identified in your blog entry permeates Swift - trading predictable runtime perf for "the correct way".
@mjtsai since this is strongly dependent on optimization it ends up unpredictable. This is a very real issue with Swift right now.
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@nuoji Agreed. Do you think this is fixable? -
@mjtsai the most worrying part is that issues are patched as they are discovered. It looks like any addition to the lang would then - -
@mjtsai require additional patches for every special case. -
@mjtsai compare ObjC where there aren't all that many places where you can optimize. - View other replies
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@mjtsai perf is slower than swift in the fastest case, but it is consistent, where Swift easily can differ several orders of magnitude. - View other replies
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@nuoji Seems like you have to hope that the compiler never regresses and also that you can figure out what it's doing in pathological cases. -
@mjtsai "Seems like you have to hope that the compiler never regresses" exactly. You need to put your faith in the optimizer. That is scary. -
@nuoji Incidentally, this also means that a hypothetical second implementation of the language would need to do all the same optimizations… - Show more
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