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Monica Dinculescu
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✨Emojineer✨ on @polymer & @googlechrome. Looks like she will bite; usually doesn't. Unless you're pizza. I made @to_emoji, a 💯 🤖

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    1. Zach Holman‏Verified account @holman 2 May 2017

      It’s possible to both hate reading other people’s source code that looks like this, but really love writing it yourself. What a world.pic.twitter.com/9uzdQWIONE

      12 replies 8 retweets 63 likes
    2. Zach Holman‏Verified account @holman 2 May 2017
      Replying to @holman

      (This example is a bit egregious, but I’m like 86% convinced that inlined styles in components is the future. Probably.)

      8 replies 2 retweets 26 likes
    3. Paul Betts  🏳️‍🌈‏ @paulcbetts 2 May 2017
      Replying to @holman

      It's pretty bad for load time though, browser is way better at just reading Regular Ass CSS

      1 reply 0 retweets 16 likes
    4. Zach Holman‏Verified account @holman 2 May 2017
      Replying to @paulcbetts

      i’d love to see some benchmarks (not trolling; I just haven’t seen any). i think for large apps this approach is relatively dope

      3 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    5. Monica Dinculescu‏ @notwaldorf 2 May 2017
      Replying to @holman @paulcbetts

      Monica Dinculescu Retweeted Elliott Sprehn

      Here’s a thread with some benchmarks; inline styles (i.e. http://el.style .margin) are the slowest:https://twitter.com/ElliottZ/status/859502609756962816 …

      Monica Dinculescu added,

      Elliott Sprehn @ElliottZ
      Replying to @slightlylate @wardpeet and 6 others
      Inline style (.style.foo = ...) or setting .cssText is probably the slowest way to apply style. Classes and ids would be the fastest.
      1 reply 7 retweets 35 likes
    6. Zach Holman‏Verified account @holman 2 May 2017
      Replying to @notwaldorf @paulcbetts

      i see no benchmarks tho

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Monica Dinculescu‏ @notwaldorf 2 May 2017
      Replying to @holman @paulcbetts

      Monica Dinculescu Retweeted David K.  🎹

      🙄https://twitter.com/DavidKPiano/status/859523901440872452 …

      Monica Dinculescu added,

      David K.  🎹 @DavidKPiano
      Replying to @slightlylate @ElliottZ and 7 others
      Oh, interesting! pic.twitter.com/0UU1Jqcb0u
      1 reply 2 retweets 17 likes
    8. David K.  🎹‏ @DavidKPiano 2 May 2017
      Replying to @notwaldorf @holman @paulcbetts

      Yep, she's right - the general idea is that "vanilla" CSS will always be faster than inline style manipulation. https://esbench.com/bench/5908f78199634800a0347e94 …

      2 replies 9 retweets 51 likes
      Monica Dinculescu‏ @notwaldorf 2 May 2017
      Replying to @DavidKPiano @holman @paulcbetts

      🙀 wowza, thanks for this. just ran it, on on safari it’s like 380x times worse , not just a little worse.pic.twitter.com/ezJodtJc1v

      10:11 PM - 2 May 2017
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      9 replies 64 retweets 179 likes
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        2. Zach Holman‏Verified account @holman 2 May 2017
          Replying to @notwaldorf @DavidKPiano @paulcbetts

          ah, that is a big difference. maybe the js to css compile libs make sense instead then

          3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. Arthur Stolyar‏ @nekrtemplar 3 May 2017
          Replying to @holman @notwaldorf and

          Or just write CSS, who could think about that?

          1 reply 0 retweets 132 likes
        4. Owen Campbell-Moore ✪‏ @owencm 3 May 2017
          Replying to @nekrtemplar @holman and

          If we can write inline CSS that gets parsed out into "real CSS" by build tools then everyone wins.

          8 replies 1 retweet 21 likes
        5. David K.  🎹‏ @DavidKPiano 3 May 2017
          Replying to @owencm @nekrtemplar and

          That's a whole lot of tooling just to avoid hitting alt+tab.

          3 replies 1 retweet 78 likes
        6. David Storey‏ @dstorey 3 May 2017
          Replying to @DavidKPiano @owencm and

          What is the dev benefit of whiting in style att vs in a\j style sheet? Selectors are hard, or something else?

          6 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
        7. Arthur Stolyar‏ @nekrtemplar 3 May 2017
          Replying to @dstorey @DavidKPiano and

          I write CSS separately and alt+tqb and whatever isn't a problem. What hate the most making class names :-) also error prone when in a team

          2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        8. Zach Holman‏Verified account @holman 3 May 2017
          Replying to @nekrtemplar @dstorey and

          I don’t really have a problem with CSS in particular, but componentizing everything is sooooo nice. avoids a lot of shared css mess

          4 replies 0 retweets 19 likes
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        2. Mark Hadley  🐱 🍕 💻‏ @mrkhdly 3 May 2017
          Replying to @notwaldorf @estrattonbailey

          So this is benchmark testing for in-line styles vs. class names? Not 100% sure I understand what is being shown. 🙁

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Monica Dinculescu‏ @notwaldorf 3 May 2017
          Replying to @mrkhdly @estrattonbailey

          yup. http://foo.style .margin=2px (style prop setter) is way slower than adding a class `with-margin` that has the same style.

          3 replies 1 retweet 9 likes
        4. Dragan Filipović‏ @draganfill 3 May 2017
          Replying to @notwaldorf @mrkhdly @estrattonbailey

          but, but , why?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Monica Dinculescu‏ @notwaldorf 3 May 2017
          Replying to @draganfill @mrkhdly @estrattonbailey

          because the browser can’t optimize anything in the JS case. it has no idea what you’re going to do, can’t precache/precompute styles.

          0 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
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        2. Dayton Lowell‏ @daytonlowell 3 May 2017
          Replying to @notwaldorf @nzgb and

          //cc @rmondello

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Ricky Mondello‏ @rmondello 4 May 2017
          Replying to @daytonlowell @notwaldorf and

          I just ran this benchmark with Safari 10.1 and the current Safari Technology Preview. STP narrows the gap by an order of magnitude.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Ricky Mondello‏ @rmondello 4 May 2017
          Replying to @rmondello @daytonlowell and

          I can't say when this improvement will make it to Safari proper, but improvements are coming.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. Monica Dinculescu‏ @notwaldorf 26 Jun 2017
          Replying to @rmondello @daytonlowell and

          yeah, i try not to put a lot of eggs in the STP basket. They've clearly fixed something but when it will make it in Safari is a mystery 🤷‍♀️

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Tim Mehlhorn‏ @timothymehlhorn 3 May 2017
          Replying to @notwaldorf @DavidKPiano and

          I wonder how custom-elements and shadow-dom would effect the results.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Monica Dinculescu‏ @notwaldorf 3 May 2017
          Replying to @timothymehlhorn @DavidKPiano and

          With custom elements, you can use a template (and therefore a proper <style> node for styling), so it’s the same as the plain-dom world.

          2 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
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        2. Art‏ @artmllr 3 May 2017
          Replying to @notwaldorf @DavidKPiano and

          Nice! Also worth noting that many small classes (atomic css) has the best perf of all. Stuff like http://fela.js.org  is killer. 💯

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        3. Art‏ @artmllr 3 May 2017
          Replying to @artmllr @notwaldorf and

          Don't have a proper bench, but did some testing in Chrome, and render and paint went down by half when using atomic css vs BEM-style css.

          1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
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