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    1. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @nostalgebraist @SilverVVulpes

      e.g. in fitness example, "faculty physiology" is /true/ (muscles and heart are distinct etc) yet we see pos correlations

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    2. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @nostalgebraist @SilverVVulpes

      cpu speed and ram size are distinct "faculties," but i'm sure the two are correlated in "population" of existing computers

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    3. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @nostalgebraist

      That's an argument regarding *why* they correlate. Different to what laymen or educated people expected/expect

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    4. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist

      I'm glad if in your bubble(non-pejoratively,as opposed to mine) it doesn't happen, but I've heard several times people...

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    5. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist

      expecting that if X person/kid it's bad at maths, then at least he should be good at reading, and/or viceversa

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    6. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @SilverVVulpes

      hey, if you predict IQ from other knowledge about kid and condition on prediction, that's a perfectly good inference :P

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    7. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @nostalgebraist @SilverVVulpes

      more seriously, i know people argued hard against positive manifold, but do we know they wouldn't do the same for fitness?

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    8. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @nostalgebraist @SilverVVulpes

      i can easily imagine my alt. universe having a fitness!Gould, et al. are you saying you find that hard to to imagine?

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    9. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @nostalgebraist

      no, I'm saying it's an important omission because part of the point of the book is to argue against those! and that they…

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    10. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist

      (Gould, Gardner, Fodor etc.) have more of an impact than you think. AND that it isn't as obvious g factor is a given.

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      nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @SilverVVulpes

      OK, i think we are evaluating the book on different standards. i fully admit i am not the target audience.

      8:25 PM - 27 Mar 2017
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        2. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist

          you're probably the target audience of the "arcane and nerdy disagreements" Stu decided to skip over in his basic into :)

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        3. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @SilverVVulpes

          ah! but my exact complaint is that one /can't/ skip over those disagreements in the way he does (cf my thread w him)

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        4. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist

          so my disagreements with you are a) What I said about what people expected, including making analogy unfair by lack of it

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        5. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @SilverVVulpes

          just to follow up on that, i think a) may involve conflation of "intuitively surprising" and "worth contesting academically"

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        6. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist @SilverVVulpes

          like, "smart" is a word. the "man on the street" talks about general intelligence all the time.

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        7. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist @SilverVVulpes

          academics have higher standards of proof, so ofc some will contest results even if they agree with naive intuition.

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        2. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist @SilverVVulpes

          trust me, i have met lots of people who know of "g" only via gould's book, and that sort of thing

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        3. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist @SilverVVulpes

          my perspective is, intelligence research has some issues at a v fundamental level and a good defense should tackle those

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        4. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist @SilverVVulpes

          this is sort of unfair, in that there are "easier" misconceptions to dispel. otoh, mistakes by enemies aren't successes

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        5. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist

          mistakes of creationists aren't success of evolutionary theory but people didn't expect evolution,argued after proposed

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        6. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist

          (comparison of kind, not degree)

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