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    1. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 27 Mar 2017

      @StuartJRitchie A friend reviewed your book. If you're not bored of responding to reviews, curious what you think:https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1806210914 …

      1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
    2. Stuart Ritchie‏ @StuartJRitchie 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @slatestarcodex

      Perhaps he was "thinking this as he read it" because I actually use the fitness analogy at some point myself!

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    3. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @StuartJRitchie @slatestarcodex

      ha, i totally missed myself doing that! went back to look over the book and it's right there. whoops

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @nostalgebraist @StuartJRitchie @slatestarcodex

      Siberian Fox Retweeted Siberian Fox

      oh, you're here, ok. Just thought I could add thishttps://twitter.com/SilverVVulpes/status/846541663040364544 …

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      Siberian Fox @SilverVVulpes
      Replying to @StuartJRitchie @slatestarcodex
      Bouchard argued in this review on evolution of intelligence that people,laymen and educated alike,were much…
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    5. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist and

      http://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/Genes-Evolution-and-Intelligence.pdf … so I think your analogy is lacking a understanding in both laymen…pic.twitter.com/3ccdOSrfSO

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    6. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist and

      and the philosophical traditions of Alternative Earth that fitness factors are independent

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    7. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist and

      and several popsci books arguing that,against evidence. With impact on gymns and athletes.

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    8. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist and

      otherwise I think Stu has said the rest (including interest that g is 50% and not, say, 8%)

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    9. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist and

      but really, it's a painful ex. of http://lesswrong.com/lw/im/hindsight_devalues_science/ … personal peet peeve, sorry if spam

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    10. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @SilverVVulpes

      i guess i disagree w author of paper you quoted. "we have multiple faculties" != "statistical independence on tests"

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      nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @nostalgebraist @SilverVVulpes

      e.g. in fitness example, "faculty physiology" is /true/ (muscles and heart are distinct etc) yet we see pos correlations

      8:07 PM - 27 Mar 2017
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        2. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist @SilverVVulpes

          cpu speed and ram size are distinct "faculties," but i'm sure the two are correlated in "population" of existing computers

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        3. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist

          That's an argument regarding *why* they correlate. Different to what laymen or educated people expected/expect

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        4. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist

          I'm glad if in your bubble(non-pejoratively,as opposed to mine) it doesn't happen, but I've heard several times people...

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        5. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist

          expecting that if X person/kid it's bad at maths, then at least he should be good at reading, and/or viceversa

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        6. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @SilverVVulpes

          hey, if you predict IQ from other knowledge about kid and condition on prediction, that's a perfectly good inference :P

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        7. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist @SilverVVulpes

          more seriously, i know people argued hard against positive manifold, but do we know they wouldn't do the same for fitness?

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        8. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist @SilverVVulpes

          i can easily imagine my alt. universe having a fitness!Gould, et al. are you saying you find that hard to to imagine?

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        9. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist

          no, I'm saying it's an important omission because part of the point of the book is to argue against those! and that they…

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        2. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist

          Stu makes the point saying "it didn't have to be that way". What I mentioned that maybe some people have memorizer brain...

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        3. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist

          vs. arithmetic or verbal brain. Leaving aside quantiative argument (it's 50% and not 8%, more important then, in smarter...

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        4. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist

          it's closer to 30%,interesting to find out why, having a general factor makes you wonder what you're measuring when you see…

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        5. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist

          correlates with cognitive tests in neuroscience etc. people *honestly* expected mental abilities to be independent, and...

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        6. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist

          even after that some people tried to argue g factor away with models and tests for independent mental abilities and failed

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        7. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist

          Thurstone said he had 7,Guilford said there were 160. People were arguing against what you claim is obvious *after*discovery

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        8. Stuart Ritchie‏ @StuartJRitchie 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist

          I agree with the Fox, FWIW.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        9. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 28 Mar 2017
          Replying to @StuartJRitchie @nostalgebraist

          we turned to DMs, some disagreement was misundestanding/contexts, still have to read paper he links for rest

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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