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    1. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 27 Mar 2017

      @StuartJRitchie A friend reviewed your book. If you're not bored of responding to reviews, curious what you think:https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1806210914 …

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    2. Stuart Ritchie‏ @StuartJRitchie 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @slatestarcodex

      Perhaps he was "thinking this as he read it" because I actually use the fitness analogy at some point myself!

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      nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
      Replying to @StuartJRitchie @slatestarcodex

      ha, i totally missed myself doing that! went back to look over the book and it's right there. whoops

      5:21 PM - 27 Mar 2017
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        2. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist @StuartJRitchie @slatestarcodex

          anyway, my basic beef w/ g is: i think a lot can go wrong when you do stats w/o an underlying causal model

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        3. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist @StuartJRitchie @slatestarcodex

          basically i just agree with borsboom's "attack of the psychometricians" http://www.stat.cmu.edu/~brian/Pmka-Attack-V71-N3/pmka-2006-71.3-425-440-borsboom.pdf …

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        4. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist @StuartJRitchie @slatestarcodex

          and i thought fitness/"f" was a clear example where we could do stats w/o modeling and not really learn much

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        5. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist @StuartJRitchie @slatestarcodex

          in the book, you mention thomson then say g "exists" in any event; i think existence claims require models

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        6. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist @StuartJRitchie @slatestarcodex

          unless it's the case that any factor i get out of PCA etc "exists," giving us a weird ontology full of...

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        7. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist @StuartJRitchie @slatestarcodex

          ...things with no clear tie to the casual structure we're more sure of (from physics etc)

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        8. Stuart Ritchie‏ @StuartJRitchie 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist @slatestarcodex

          I think we actually agree in every respect. By "exists" I just meant that the factor is there (it could've been otherwise, cf. Thurstone)...

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        9. Stuart Ritchie‏ @StuartJRitchie 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @StuartJRitchie @nostalgebraist @slatestarcodex

          ...in the data, explains a lot of the variance (again, could've been otherwise), and predicts stuff IRL.

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        2. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist @StuartJRitchie @slatestarcodex

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          oh, you're here, ok. Just thought I could add thishttps://twitter.com/SilverVVulpes/status/846541663040364544 …

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          Siberian Fox @SilverVVulpes
          Replying to @StuartJRitchie @slatestarcodex
          Bouchard argued in this review on evolution of intelligence that people,laymen and educated alike,were much…
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        3. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist and

          http://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/Genes-Evolution-and-Intelligence.pdf … so I think your analogy is lacking a understanding in both laymen…pic.twitter.com/3ccdOSrfSO

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        4. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist and

          and the philosophical traditions of Alternative Earth that fitness factors are independent

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        5. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist and

          and several popsci books arguing that,against evidence. With impact on gymns and athletes.

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        6. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist and

          otherwise I think Stu has said the rest (including interest that g is 50% and not, say, 8%)

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        7. Siberian Fox‏ @SilverVVulpes 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @SilverVVulpes @nostalgebraist and

          but really, it's a painful ex. of http://lesswrong.com/lw/im/hindsight_devalues_science/ … personal peet peeve, sorry if spam

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        8. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @SilverVVulpes

          i guess i disagree w author of paper you quoted. "we have multiple faculties" != "statistical independence on tests"

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        9. nostalgebraist‏ @nostalgebraist 27 Mar 2017
          Replying to @nostalgebraist @SilverVVulpes

          e.g. in fitness example, "faculty physiology" is /true/ (muscles and heart are distinct etc) yet we see pos correlations

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