@mormo_music @cheepguava Slight difference in causation, though I'd also try to do something against bolide impact if I could.
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@mormo_music Natural trends are slow. If there's a wind pushing my car backwards at 0.01 mph, and I start the car and drive at 30 mph . . .
@mormo_music ... am I "slowing the natural trend"? No, I'm adding a much stronger trend in the opposite direction.
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@nostalgebraist Like I said:If natural trend=cooling, then humanaction that increases temp by lesser amount = slowing climate change. Agree? -
@mormo_music Yes. But we knew that the "lesser amount" premise is false. The climate is changing faster (magnitude) than it would w/o us. -
@nostalgebraist "The climate is changing faster (magnitude) than it would w/o us." How do 'we' know this? -
@mormo_music http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-phdeUnEAZE4/TuK2dxoD_EI/AAAAAAAAAGA/yym7i32b3yA/s1600/cmp3unforcedtrends.png … Blue is predictions w/ no CO2 forcing. Red is observations. -
@nostalgebraist Until Huber&Knuttis models do a 10x better job of predicting future changes than t ones t IPCC relied on, 'know' = bullshit. -
@mormo_music H&K are just running models with no forcing to look at internal variability. Not predicting forcing response. -
@nostalgebraist Ok I don't know enough about it. I do know that other peerreviewed studies disagree with t climatesensitivity assumed by H&K -
@mormo_music H&K didn't make such assumptions. Their model learned distributions of parameters like sensitivity from the data. - 1 more reply
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