"Son, we need to talk about the birds and the bees. Birds and bees were animals that were wiped out because of climate change." – our future
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@nostalgebraist If natural trend = cooling, then human action that increases temp by lesser amount is _slowing_ climate change.
@mormo_music Our CO2 emissions (and other emissions) are changing the climate. That's climate change.
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@nostalgebraist You're defining climate change in a way that makes it compatible w/ weather/temp/sealevel all staying exactly thesame. odd. -
@mormo_music Natural trends are slow. If there's a wind pushing my car backwards at 0.01 mph, and I start the car and drive at 30 mph . . . -
@mormo_music ... am I "slowing the natural trend"? No, I'm adding a much stronger trend in the opposite direction. -
@nostalgebraist Like I said:If natural trend=cooling, then humanaction that increases temp by lesser amount = slowing climate change. Agree? -
@mormo_music Yes. But we knew that the "lesser amount" premise is false. The climate is changing faster (magnitude) than it would w/o us. -
@nostalgebraist "The climate is changing faster (magnitude) than it would w/o us." How do 'we' know this? -
@mormo_music http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-phdeUnEAZE4/TuK2dxoD_EI/AAAAAAAAAGA/yym7i32b3yA/s1600/cmp3unforcedtrends.png … Blue is predictions w/ no CO2 forcing. Red is observations. -
@nostalgebraist Until Huber&Knuttis models do a 10x better job of predicting future changes than t ones t IPCC relied on, 'know' = bullshit. - 4 more replies
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@nostalgebraist A more sane definition of climate change admits that the climate changes even without human influence.Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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