"Son, we need to talk about the birds and the bees. Birds and bees were animals that were wiped out because of climate change." – our future
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@JonasKyratzes eg. our influence on the climate may turn out, in some periods, to be working to slow the 'natural' rate of climate change.
@mormo_music @JonasKyratzes so where is the uncertainty about the direction of our influence?
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@nostalgebraist uncertainty comes from uncertainty about whether current natural trend (medium to longterm timescale) is warming or cooling. -
@nostalgebraist If natural trend = cooling, then human action that increases temp by lesser amount is _slowing_ climate change. -
@mormo_music Our CO2 emissions (and other emissions) are changing the climate. That's climate change. -
@nostalgebraist You're defining climate change in a way that makes it compatible w/ weather/temp/sealevel all staying exactly thesame. odd. -
@mormo_music Natural trends are slow. If there's a wind pushing my car backwards at 0.01 mph, and I start the car and drive at 30 mph . . . -
@mormo_music ... am I "slowing the natural trend"? No, I'm adding a much stronger trend in the opposite direction. -
@nostalgebraist Like I said:If natural trend=cooling, then humanaction that increases temp by lesser amount = slowing climate change. Agree? -
@mormo_music Yes. But we knew that the "lesser amount" premise is false. The climate is changing faster (magnitude) than it would w/o us. - 7 more replies
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