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    1. steveklabnik‏ @steveklabnik 4 Apr 2018
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      dang @nikomatsakis is awesomehttps://internals.rust-lang.org/t/lets-push-non-lexical-lifetimes-nll-over-the-finish-line/7115/8 …

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    2. Niko Matsakis‏ @nikomatsakis 4 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @steveklabnik

      In my opinion the hero of this story is @frankmcsherry

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    3. Joshua Yanovski‏ @awesomeintheory 4 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @nikomatsakis @steveklabnik @frankmcsherry

      Super impressive to see how much differential dataflow speeds stuff up in practice--it's too easy to forget how impressive it is when you're comparing it to microoptimized research database performance and not production software.

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    4. Joshua Yanovski‏ @awesomeintheory 4 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @awesomeintheory @nikomatsakis and

      Now I'm wondering how hard it would be to write a procedural macro to automatically generate dataflow from Datalog style rules for simple stuff like this...

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    5. Frank McSherry‏ @frankmcsherry 5 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @awesomeintheory @nikomatsakis @steveklabnik

      This could be pretty neat. My attempts at vanilla macros .. flailed. Datalog is pretty terse, and if you miss on any of its simplicity the resulting string can be hard to understand. E.g. I had to write repeated vars as `y1` and `y2` rather than the same name, which ... =/

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    6. Joshua Yanovski‏ @awesomeintheory 5 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @frankmcsherry @nikomatsakis @steveklabnik

      I don't think vanilla macros could really do what you want here anyway (since you sort of need to be able to compare variable names). It would be interesting, though, if vanilla macros could understand binding sites, uses, and scopes, allowing shadowing like Rust let statements.

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    7. Joshua Yanovski‏ @awesomeintheory 5 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @awesomeintheory @frankmcsherry and

      It might be easier to use macros if you were willing to use "SQL-flavored Datalog" (ignoring NATURAL JOIN and USING), since then you need to make the comparison explicit in syntax. That's a lot less terse, of course.

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    8. Frank McSherry‏ @frankmcsherry 5 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @awesomeintheory @nikomatsakis @steveklabnik

      Right, I think I ended up with naming the bindings, then stating equalities in terms of bindings, e.g. `datalog!(rel1(a,b1,c1), rel2(c2,b2,d), (b1,c1) == (b2,c2))`, which .. is arguably an improvement, but it would indeed be an argument.

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    9. Joshua Yanovski‏ @awesomeintheory 5 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @frankmcsherry @nikomatsakis @steveklabnik

      I'm willing to call it a big improvement, actually! At least, I find it much easier to comprehend than the long-form Rust. But obviously a procedural macro could do better :)

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      Niko Matsakis‏ @nikomatsakis 5 Apr 2018
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      Replying to @awesomeintheory @frankmcsherry @steveklabnik

      I was also debating making a procedural macro at some point =) can't use them in the compiler yet though

      11:07 AM - 5 Apr 2018
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