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    1. Nicolette D'Angelo‏ @nicohhhlette Jan 23

      On what “burn it all down” really means, where it comes from, and why the predominant reactions to Sarah Bond’s original tweet from academics are willfully ignorant and reactionary. Thread.

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    2. Nicolette D'Angelo‏ @nicohhhlette Jan 23

      Talk of “burning it all down” is not new nor aimed at nihilism. It's a standard phrase in abolitionist scholarship, aimed at dismantling structures that at best treat decolonization as an intellectual debate, and at worst enact state-sanctioned death.https://abolitionjournal.org/burn-it-down/ 

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    3. Nicolette D'Angelo‏ @nicohhhlette Jan 23

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      In academia, I, like Sarah Bond, take “burning it all down” thus to mean addressing that white supremacy, casualization, and sexual violence are not aberrations, but business as usual in academia, such that a radical restructuring is required. https://twitter.com/SarahEBond/status/1352818110320041984 …

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    4. Nicolette D'Angelo‏ @nicohhhlette Jan 23

      .@Eidolon (rip) published an editorial on “burning it all down” in 2019. “Bound to infuriate Boomers,” this kind of rhetoric is “a challenge to imagine how, if you had a blank slate, you’d go about solving big problems in creative, radical ways.”https://eidolon.pub/burn-it-all-down-182f5edb16e …

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    5. Nicolette D'Angelo‏ @nicohhhlette Jan 23

      At AIASCS 2018, @platanoclassics urged against defending the field, calling instead “for this contemporary configuration of Classics to die, so that it might be born into a new life.” Merely waiting out the storm is "not only unethical but unimaginative.”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnWlsjSfj88 …

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    6. Nicolette D'Angelo‏ @nicohhhlette Jan 23

      He also asks, “What exactly do we propose to do by expanding access? Are we simply in the business of bringing fresh blood to the ghosts?” I have written about this question here:https://eidolon.pub/working-classics-991e24f75d93 …

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    7. Nicolette D'Angelo‏ @nicohhhlette Jan 23

      As you may have noticed, in both these provocations there is an emphasis on NEW life, on NEW scholarly communities wherein the most historically excluded members of our field get to reconfigure the terms of knowledge production, labor, and disciplinary identity.

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    8. Nicolette D'Angelo‏ @nicohhhlette Jan 23

      Nicolette D'Angelo Retweeted Theo Nash

      These are some of the most visionary, tireless members of our field, who do the thankless work of proposing serious alternatives. However, they get accused of wanting to make classicists metaphorically “homeless.”https://twitter.com/theo_nash/status/1352988605103403009 …

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      Theo Nash @theo_nash
      However noble your intentions, if you burn down your house without the capacity to build a new one, all you’ve done is made yourself homeless. https://twitter.com/SarahEBond/status/1352818110320041984 …
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    9. Nicolette D'Angelo‏ @nicohhhlette Jan 23

      My peers & I have also been accused of desiring destruction merely for voicing basic concerns in graduate fora about pedagogy and syllabi. We offer ideas & alternatives, but they go ignored while the “burn it all down” narrative is foisted on us by even well-meaning professors.

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    10. Nicolette D'Angelo‏ @nicohhhlette Jan 23

      Thus, like abolitionists, we have reclaimed the term of "burning it down" as on some level it’s impossible to escape, and on another level, it conveys the extent of the liberatory change that we desire and others fear.

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      Nicolette D'Angelo‏ @nicohhhlette Jan 23

      .@nadhirawho describes how BIPOC classicists are regularly seen as “too harsh or too critical” for critiquing the field, as if these critiques may if aired sow so much discord that we're somehow weaker in the face of rightwing receptions of Classics.http://notesfromtheapotheke.com/yes-classics-is-toxic-or-in-defense-of-burning-it-all-down/ …

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        2. Nicolette D'Angelo‏ @nicohhhlette Jan 23

          This is the "you're racist for talking about racism" argument. Nadhira here gestures toward an oft-overlooked fact: that merely the violence is always situated *outside* Classics, and thus critiquing the field has led to people *being accused of* wanting to burn it all down.

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        3. Nicolette D'Angelo‏ @nicohhhlette Jan 23

          Here I find @feministkilljoy's “An Affinity of Hammers” helpful to think with. Ahmed observes that “so much violence directed against [minority] groups works by locating that violence as coming from within those groups." https://transreads.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2019-03-20_5c928f8878844_22Ahmed.pdf …pic.twitter.com/uvvKw1nUli

          How often: some forms of violence are understood as trivial, or not as violence at all. How often: violence is reproduced by not being understood as violence. So much violence directed against groups (that is, directed against those perceived as members of a group) works by locating that violence as coming from within those groups. Thus minorities are often deemed as being violent, or as
causing violence, or even as causing the violence directed against them. To give an account of trans people as causing violence (by virtue of being trans) is to cause violence against trans people. We are most certainly talking about lives and deaths here; and we are most certainly talking about incitement to violence.
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        4. Nicolette D'Angelo‏ @nicohhhlette Jan 23

          “Even causing the violence directed against them”: this is where the charge that the alternative of Bond's global antiquity model is akin to homelessness becomes the most morally disgusting.

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        5. Nicolette D'Angelo‏ @nicohhhlette Jan 23

          In pretending that the current system is accessible for the majority of those who might want to teach and learn about the ancient world, several today revealed that they think, on some level, that Classics is better off as is, that at least it *works*.

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        6. Nicolette D'Angelo‏ @nicohhhlette Jan 23

          My only question is, works *for whom*? If the field Classics really is a house, who gets to live there, and who doesn’t? Who always doesn’t? /end

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