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Nick Lockwood

@nicklockwood

Writer of Objective C and objectionable Swift. iOS @SchibstedGroup. Ex-@facebook. Author of iOS Core Animation: Advanced Techniques, iCarousel, FXForms

Joined March 2009
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    Nick Lockwood ‏@nicklockwood Oct 12

    I'm not sure I agree with the idea of Apple trying to identify "linked" accounts and apply collective punishment at all to be honest.

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      1. Nick Lockwood ‏@nicklockwood Oct 12

        They aren't some arbiter of moral authority. Their only objective should be to keep the App Store safe, not ensure the guilty are punished.

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      2. Nick Lockwood ‏@nicklockwood Oct 12

        If Kapeli had been trying to pull some trick with one legit account and one dodgy one, shutting down the dodgy one addresses the problem.

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      4. Nick Lockwood ‏@nicklockwood Oct 12

        And even then, treating the apps from that account like malware makes no sense. Why punish the customers who bought them?

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      6. Maximilian ‏@maxhasadhd Oct 12

        @nicklockwood Probably just how the system works and they don’t want to fix it

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      7. Nick Lockwood ‏@nicklockwood Oct 12

        @maxhasadhd presumably because the engineer that built it never anticipated Apple would ban a developer whose apps aren't malicious.

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      1. Spooky Streza ‏@SteveStreza Oct 12

        @nicklockwood In this case, yes. But I’d bet it is very common for scammers and such to reuse cards/devices, and we don’t see those because

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      2. Spooky Streza ‏@SteveStreza Oct 12

        @nicklockwood they just disappear from the App Store when they get caught.

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      3. Nick Lockwood ‏@nicklockwood Oct 12

        .@SteveStreza I can see that it would make sense to track serial abusers and prevent them from creating more accounts, but this wasn't that.

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      4. Spooky Streza ‏@SteveStreza Oct 12

        @nicklockwood Well the flaw wasn’t _really_ in linking accounts as much as the fact that Apple didn’t communicate the issue to all accounts.

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      6. Andrew Mayers ‏@jamayers Oct 12

        @SteveStreza @nicklockwood we need a way to know when linking occurs so we can appeal that link, or remove old links.

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      8. Nick Lockwood ‏@nicklockwood Oct 12

        @jamayers @SteveStreza I don't see how that would work. The link isn't like a linked iTunes account. They are trying to detect fraud.

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      9. Nick Lockwood ‏@nicklockwood Oct 12

        @jamayers @SteveStreza if there was a way to disavow association with other accounts, scammers with multiple accounts would *always* do it.

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      10. Andrew Mayers ‏@jamayers Oct 12

        @nicklockwood @SteveStreza true, but accounts shouldn’t be considered linked forever without a way out. Takeaway is this is too opaque.

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      1. Joel Bernstein  💀 🎃 👻 ‏@CastIrony Oct 12

        @nicklockwood Same, except instead of not being sure I agree, I strongly disagree.

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      2. Nick Lockwood ‏@nicklockwood Oct 12

        @CastIrony me too, I was just being British.

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      3. Brian Papa ‏@bpapa Oct 12

        @nicklockwood @CastIrony don't you think it's pretty common that scammers would set up multiple App Store accounts and that would stop them?

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      4. Nick Lockwood ‏@nicklockwood Oct 12

        @bpapa @CastIrony I think it's reasonable to use that signal to *investigate* the other accounts, but not as grounds for shutting them down.

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      6. Nick Lockwood ‏@nicklockwood Oct 12

        @bpapa @CastIrony I also think it's reasonable to ban repeat offenders from creating new accounts, but this was a first offence.

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    1. Andrew Mayers ‏@jamayers Oct 12

      @nicklockwood I submitted a bug report requesting that they provide a way for dev to check if their account is linked, and if so to what.

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    2. Stephen Darlington ‏@sdarlington Oct 13

      @nicklockwood Identifying linked accounts is a legit and common method of identifying fraud. What they did with that is where it went wrong.

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