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International man of history. Author, broadcaster, @HooverInst senior fellow. Latest book is The Square and the Tower (Penguin, October 2017)

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    Niall Ferguson‏Verified account @nfergus 20 Jul 2017

    I won. "Most [Brits] think the British Empire is more something to be proud of (59%) rather than ashamed of (19%)."https://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/07/26/britain-proud-its-empire/ …

    10:22 AM - 20 Jul 2017
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      2. Shashi Tharoor‏Verified account @ShashiTharoor 21 Jul 2017
        Replying to @nfergus

        What you won, alas, is the votes of people kept ignorant of the atrocities of Empire by wilful historical amnesia. Congratulations!

        21 replies 101 retweets 564 likes
      3. Niall Ferguson‏Verified account @nfergus 21 Jul 2017
        Replying to @ShashiTharoor

        The choice, @ShashiTaroor, was between Britain's empire and other, much worse ones. You don't have an answer to this.pic.twitter.com/pQRdnGpVGg

        48 replies 12 retweets 19 likes
      4. Zoya Siddiqi‏ @flounderingbear 26 Jul 2017
        Replying to @nfergus @ShashiTharoor

        Logical fallacy. Britain doing the morally right thing in going up against the evil of Hitler does not absolve the empire of its many sins.

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. Zoya Siddiqi‏ @flounderingbear 26 Jul 2017
        Replying to @flounderingbear @nfergus @ShashiTharoor

        The presence or absence of viable alternatives to empire is irrelevant to the moral status of actions carried out by colonial governments.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. Rationalist‏ @nm79er 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @nfergus

        No matter how much its glossed over, the regime likr all other regimes was evil & the Brits were masters in someone elses home.

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      3. Blewyn‏ @Blewyn 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @nm79er @nfergus

        The Empire spread liberal democracy around the globe like nothing before or since.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Rationalist‏ @nm79er 26 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Blewyn @nfergus

        I hope there's sarcasm in that tweet. There are no slaves or subjects in a democracy. There are citizens -with rights.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Blewyn‏ @Blewyn 26 Jul 2017
        Replying to @nm79er @nfergus

        There's always grey areas at the edges of civilisation. Vast areas of the globe would still be tribal or monarchic today, were it not for BE

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. End of conversation
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      2. Alan Adler‏ @W6VA 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @nfergus

        As empires go the British was benign to beneficial. Way better than Spanish that brought disease and death to an entire continent.

        39 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
      3. susan gyde‏ @SusanGyde 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @W6VA @nfergus

        In what universe is it ever okay to steal someone's land? Indigenous peoples have never recovered.

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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      1. AthèistsVsEuthanasia‏ @VsEuthanasia 3 Aug 2017
        Replying to @nfergus

        The method of which they are ignorant will return to haunt them in the guise of contempt. Offered no alternative but self-justifying denial.

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      1. David Langtry‏ @LangtryDavidSQ 27 Jul 2017
        Replying to @nfergus

        Astonishing! From an historian! Brexit:"Countries so enormously deluded about their history make enormous mistakes":https://bloom.bg/2v8tFPG 

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      1. AB‏ @browna_ab 5 Aug 2017
        Replying to @nfergus

        I suspect the majority of the people who lived in countries who were ruled by the British Empire would disagree. I guess they don't count.

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      1. Anthony Tsang‏ @Capitalist_CPA 24 Jul 2017
        Replying to @nfergus

        ... Forward, the Cultural Revolution, the Tiananmen massacre.

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      2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 21 Jul 2017
        Replying to @nfergus

        Shouldn't this poll be done in Ireland, Kenya, India, etc.?

        2 replies 2 retweets 110 likes
      3. Jit Dasgupta‏ @soumya0985 21 Jul 2017
        Replying to @HeerJeet @nfergus

        Any historian who says "I won" based on public polling of a narrative he advances is not a historian but a propagandist.

        2 replies 17 retweets 94 likes
      4. mikems‏ @socialistMike 25 Jul 2017
        Replying to @soumya0985 @HeerJeet @nfergus

        Worse, he's a troll.

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. James 🇬🇧‏ @Jam_mil73 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @nfergus

        I've always been proud of it. We did good and bad, but overall far better came out of it.

        3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
      3. susan gyde‏ @SusanGyde 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Jam_mil73 @nfergus

        So stealing from other countries is acceptable

        4 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
      4. James 🇬🇧‏ @Jam_mil73 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @SusanGyde @nfergus

        Are you going to complain about the Romans? Greeks? Persians? Vikings? angles? Saxons? Mongols? Celts? Mohammed? Zulus? It's history.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      5. susan gyde‏ @SusanGyde 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Jam_mil73 @nfergus

        The pride is the issue

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      6. James 🇬🇧‏ @Jam_mil73 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @SusanGyde @nfergus

        Pride is not the issue. If you dislike having pride in this country, because you cannot separate the good and bad and blur. You've issues.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      7. susan gyde‏ @SusanGyde 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Jam_mil73 @nfergus

        I'm not going to argue with you because you are missing the point. Colonialism has little to do with ww2 or anything else you mention.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      8. James 🇬🇧‏ @Jam_mil73 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @SusanGyde @nfergus

        Colonialism, a fact of history. You judge from the comfort of modern day. Through a prism of comfort when you've never fought for anything.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      9. susan gyde‏ @SusanGyde 20 Jul 2017
        Replying to @Jam_mil73 @nfergus

        It's being proud of it which was the poll, not whether it happened. I've fought many battles thank you

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
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