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Self Employed small business owner, Living in and loving San Francisco, End mass incarceration!

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    1. Otto Rocket‏ @SF_Shoobie 21 Dec 2020
      Replying to @netfire4 @michelletandler and

      My argument is not that prison is the best solution nor an effective one. I'm arguing it's better than our 2020 COVID-safe approach: "we will yell about masks and impose quarantines but will ignore everything else, including vehicle theft, car break-ins and stayaway orders"

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    2. Paul‏ @netfire4 21 Dec 2020
      Replying to @SF_Shoobie @michelletandler and

      Well you are complaining about one of the most effective responses, as the epidemiological epicenter of this crisis, our @SF_DPH had previously tasked @chesaboudin with reducing incarceration by 300 non-violent people, of which you seem to complain about? https://sfdistrictattorney.org/policy/justice-driven-data/an-epidemic-inside-a-pandemic/ …pic.twitter.com/sHtvne6mvw

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    3. Otto Rocket‏ @SF_Shoobie 21 Dec 2020
      Replying to @netfire4 @michelletandler and

      I'm not complaining about the risk of COVID in our jails. I'm complaining about the excusing of what I'd call "heavy crime" simply because a proven and undeterred criminal may be exposed to COVID in jail. I have no empathy for those who can't treat their community with respect.

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    4. Otto Rocket‏ @SF_Shoobie 21 Dec 2020
      Replying to @SF_Shoobie @netfire4 and

      On that note - you're advocating for change here. I'm interested in hearing your ideas: how would you handle this specific individual if not jail? I'm all for helping those who demonstrate a desire to change, grow, and work hard to improve both themselves & their situations.

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    5. Paul‏ @netfire4 21 Dec 2020
      Replying to @SF_Shoobie @michelletandler and

      I advocate we follow the guidance of our health professionals in our @SF_DPH and immediately release another 235/835 of our cities mass incarcerated population or face further existential risk from congregate living circumstances. https://sfdistrictattorney.org/policy/justice-driven-data/an-epidemic-inside-a-pandemic/ …pic.twitter.com/rnNAxIPA0v

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    6. Otto Rocket‏ @SF_Shoobie 21 Dec 2020
      Replying to @netfire4 @michelletandler and

      I remain hesitant although open to this idea if those selected for release are not (1) violent or (2) repeat offenders who have demonstrated they need to be removed from the community.

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    7. Paul‏ @netfire4 21 Dec 2020
      Replying to @SF_Shoobie @michelletandler and

      Listening to our medical professionals, I think its important to release violent criminals too, many of our prisoners have seen decades behind bars and no longer pose a risk of violence in our society.https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/04/10/prison-violent-offender-jail-coronavirus/ …

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    8. Otto Rocket‏ @SF_Shoobie 21 Dec 2020
      Replying to @netfire4 @michelletandler and

      "It's important to release violent criminals too" is too open a statement for me. I'd agree that in most circumstances (see: not a demonstrated repeat offenders) inmates who have been behind bars for decades have paid a significant debt to society and could be reviewed for parole

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    9. Paul‏ @netfire4 21 Dec 2020
      Replying to @SF_Shoobie @michelletandler and

      @SF_Shoobie , While I recognize not a situation you want, if you were, as @chesaboudin is currently, tasked with releasing another 235/835 prisoners or 28% how would you prioritize that release?

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    10. Otto Rocket‏ @SF_Shoobie 21 Dec 2020
      Replying to @netfire4 @michelletandler and

      I would create a baseline as to what would make an inmate a safe bet to release into society - then review the cases that aligned with this baseline. I wouldn't get caught up hitting the number "235", but rather review only those cases deemed safe to get as close as possible.

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      Paul‏ @netfire4 21 Dec 2020
      Replying to @SF_Shoobie @michelletandler and

      its uncomfortable like the rest of pandemic but that doesn't answer the question. Ok, but the doctors, are telling @chesaboudin that for our city to hold any more than 600 people is unsafe and will lead to a great risk of society wide corona infection. Which ones would you hold?

      10:44 AM - 21 Dec 2020
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        2. Otto Rocket‏ @SF_Shoobie 21 Dec 2020
          Replying to @netfire4 @michelletandler and

          600 isn't an absolute line - it's not as though the number 600 magically represents safety. We should try to get as close to 600 as possible but our community is already dealing with COVID we shouldn't add inmates we don't have a baseline level of confidence can follow the law.

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        3. Paul‏ @netfire4 21 Dec 2020
          Replying to @SF_Shoobie @michelletandler and

          You're right, we would be safer if it was even lower, 600 represents the ceiling and we need to release many more than the 235 we are discussing. However, in this land of mass incarceration, no one follows the law.https://ips-dc.org/three-felonies-day/ …

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