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    1. Nicholas Weaver‏Verified account @ncweaver 28 Oct 2018

      Nicholas Weaver Retweeted Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty

      You couldn't do this in the US: The National Association for the Deaf would sue you for violating the ADA for not providing human-created subtitles on all episodes. And the DOJ would back them up with nastygrams.https://twitter.com/RFERL/status/1056153538701729792 …

      Nicholas Weaver added,

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      Radio Free Europe/Radio LibertyVerified account @RFERL
      Pavel Viktor, a science teacher in Odesa, Ukraine, started posting his lectures on YouTube for absent students. He never expected the videos to gain millions of views beyond his classroom. pic.twitter.com/dni00IKJQo
      7 replies 20 retweets 49 likes
    2. George Walters at #HIMSS19‏ @gwalters69 28 Oct 2018
      Replying to @ncweaver @pvineetha

      In other words, government regulations prevent learning? Also Youtube generates subtitles that are "pretty good".

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Nicholas Weaver‏Verified account @ncweaver 28 Oct 2018
      Replying to @gwalters69 @pvineetha

      Youtube generated subtitles are not good enough according to the NAD.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. George Walters at #HIMSS19‏ @gwalters69 28 Oct 2018
      Replying to @ncweaver @pvineetha

      THIS seems to say they want captions for web content. It doesn't specify human-generated captions.https://www.nad.org/resources/technology/internet-access-and-broadband/captioning-on-the-internet/ …

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Nicholas Weaver‏Verified account @ncweaver 28 Oct 2018
      Replying to @gwalters69 @pvineetha

      NAD's lawsuit specifically stated as examples of "insufficient" captioning things which were auto-captioned by YouTube. Auto Captioning is not good enough, so they (and the DOJ) were shocked when universities just took all that content down period.pic.twitter.com/OznbjwtqEt

      2 replies 2 retweets 7 likes
    6. Chrissy LeMaire  🎉‏ @cl 28 Oct 2018
      Replying to @ncweaver @gwalters69 @pvineetha

      I call mega bullshit. You're pointing out Harvard and MIT which have the endowment to pay for CC. Other universities won't likely be subject to the same requirements. And making arguments against the ADA is ass.

      3 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
      Nicholas Weaver‏Verified account @ncweaver 28 Oct 2018
      Replying to @cl @gwalters69 @pvineetha

      Berkeley is subject to it too. ALL my lectures I have recorded but I can not release them public ally because they aren’t human captioned so UC policy is a big Nope. Any school in the US is actually subject to this.

      9:33 AM - 28 Oct 2018
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        2. rube heretic‏ @RubeHeretic 7 Nov 2018
          Replying to @ncweaver @cl and

          Have you suggested to @lessig that he have someone look at how to fix this? It does seem like a waste.

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        3. Nicholas Weaver‏Verified account @ncweaver 7 Nov 2018
          Replying to @RubeHeretic @cl and

          It would take a legal change in Congress to expressly weaken the ADA.

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        4. End of conversation
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        2.  ✨ Lizard Queen (U̶n̶affiliated to Lizard People) ✨‏ @pvineetha 28 Oct 2018
          Replying to @ncweaver @cl @gwalters69

           ✨ Lizard Queen (U̶n̶affiliated to Lizard People) ✨ Retweeted  ✨ Lizard Queen (U̶n̶affiliated to Lizard People) ✨

          Yup I was saying the same thing earlier. It’s like the NAD fucked this up for everyone involved so we can’t take solace in the fact thinking “meh it’s Harvard and MIT they have money”.https://twitter.com/pvineetha/status/1056566824681246721?s=21 …

           ✨ Lizard Queen (U̶n̶affiliated to Lizard People) ✨ added,

           ✨ Lizard Queen (U̶n̶affiliated to Lizard People) ✨ @pvineetha
          Replying to @cl @ncweaver @gwalters69
          Respectfully, if a legal precedent has been set, any entity could be subject to it and the “other universities” that you refer to would only have to rely on the mercy or someone, ANYONE (because now the NAD set precedent even for others) not suing them for doing the same.
          1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
        3. George Walters at #HIMSS19‏ @gwalters69 28 Oct 2018
          Replying to @pvineetha @ncweaver @cl

          Crowdsourcing would be great, but... the great and hallowed halls of academia might be not up for that.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4.  ✨ Lizard Queen (U̶n̶affiliated to Lizard People) ✨‏ @pvineetha 28 Oct 2018
          Replying to @gwalters69 @ncweaver @cl

           ✨ Lizard Queen (U̶n̶affiliated to Lizard People) ✨ Retweeted  ✨ Lizard Queen (U̶n̶affiliated to Lizard People) ✨

          They’re open sourced under licenses like CC-BY-NC-ND. So am not sure what the hallowed halls of academia could do if people captioned them. From my understanding they would’ve actually been happier if that had happened instead of them getting sued:https://twitter.com/pvineetha/status/1056578998891876354?s=21 …

           ✨ Lizard Queen (U̶n̶affiliated to Lizard People) ✨ added,

           ✨ Lizard Queen (U̶n̶affiliated to Lizard People) ✨ @pvineetha
          Replying to @vickyharp @gwalters69 and 2 others
          I agree. I think the argument here was that if this material is open sourced, the larger community can make the subtitles available etc. but instead the NDA sued these universities and now the content is available to no one to do nothing. Hence my point: https://twitter.com/pvineetha/status/1056577531854446595?s=21 …
          1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
        5. George Walters at #HIMSS19‏ @gwalters69 28 Oct 2018
          Replying to @pvineetha @ncweaver @cl

          Then I am entirely befuddled.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6.  ✨ Lizard Queen (U̶n̶affiliated to Lizard People) ✨‏ @pvineetha 28 Oct 2018
          Replying to @gwalters69 @ncweaver @cl

          This is exactly why I was taking the time to explain the situation when people were saying “Harvard and MIT have money they can afford to caption this stuff”. Because that really is not the issue here at all. The issue is NAD suing them and fucking it up for everyone involved.

          1 reply 2 retweets 7 likes
        7. Norman (((Group W bench))) Wilson‏ @oclsc 28 Oct 2018
          Replying to @pvineetha @gwalters69 and

          A related question is what NAD are really after. Are the captions really that bad? (Possibly; we watch DVDs with captions turned on, and many programs contain howlers.) Have the auto-captioners reached out to NAD? How has NAD responded?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8.  ✨ Lizard Queen (U̶n̶affiliated to Lizard People) ✨‏ @pvineetha 28 Oct 2018
          Replying to @oclsc @gwalters69 and

          By “auto captioners” you mean the companies who provide captioning software? I don’t think they contacted NAD but I also didn’t bother diligently following up because this was a dick move and I wasn’t up for wading through shit. Someone masochistic should look through case file.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        9. Norman (((Group W bench))) Wilson‏ @oclsc 28 Oct 2018
          Replying to @pvineetha @gwalters69 and

          I haven't followed it up enough to understand whether the lawsuit is justified. Maybe if the bus isn't too crowded.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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        1. Erwan‏ @0x6c6f6d 28 Oct 2018
          Replying to @ncweaver @cl and

          What are the lectures about? I'd be down to help captioning them if you have the bandwidth and they are on a topic of interest for me.

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        2. ghostofYule‏ @Corpusmentis0 28 Oct 2018
          Replying to @ncweaver @cl and

          LAND OF THE FREE

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        3. George Walters at #HIMSS19‏ @gwalters69 28 Oct 2018
          Replying to @Corpusmentis0 @ncweaver and

          Land of the sue-happy-leading-to-protect-thyself and this is why we can't have nice things.

          0 replies 1 retweet 1 like
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