are they going to mention the whole discussion of diverting resrouces to things other than cops to help these neighborhoods? or what?
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Amber's politics are just based on knee jerk opposing racial liberation as detrimental to class struggle.
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she's making the same argument against police abolition that centrists make against universal healthcare and Sander's other programs. It's impractical!
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M4A is the real popular program; antiracist programs have no constituency, which is why weeks of street protests against racism have definitely not been happening. what planet are they living on?
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shocker: lots of people who support m4a also think caping for cops is bad. Taibbi" "there's something fake about it; it's hard to put your finger on what it is exactly." maybe the issue is that you've got some racist presuppositions, Matt.
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hmm; why does antiracist protest make me, Matt Taibbi, uncomfortable? hm? Meanwhile Will is hiding under a desk, I guess.
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Abolish police is like military groupthink in catch 22, I am Matt Taibbi, brilliant analyst.
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amber says no one is explaining abolish police or trying to gain a critical mass of support?! there have been tons and tons of articles and WEEKS OF STREET DEMONSTRATIONS OH MY FUCKING GOD PEOPLE ARE DEMONSTRATING IN THE STREET AND GETTING BEATEN BY POLICE
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Amber says no one offline knows what prison abolition is. who the fuck do you think is leading prisonabolition movements?! It's not Joe Biden, you dipshits.
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the condescension and the ignorance combined is just amazing.
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Holy shit, she goes after Mariame Kaba. she says Mariame Kaba refusing to explain prison abolition means that Kaba doesn't care about these issues. I am dumbstruck.
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among other things, Mariame just wrote a fucking op ed in the NYT. She has spent her life explaining these issues. She does not have to write a personal tweet thread for Amber A'Lee frost to show she cares about these issues.
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"people want to know what we're going to do with the murderers and rapists. that's a legitimate concern." as Kaba points out, what we mostly do with them now is nothing. police famously don't care about catching rapists.
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she is now saying Kaba must not have a lot of experience with murderers and rapists. this whole section is just jaw-droppingly ignorant and insulting.
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if you've heard this, and you're still supporting them, you are not meaningfully a leftist.
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Menaker, giggling, "what do we do with the cops who kill people in the streets and cover it up, what do we do with them, ha ha" like, no one has ever discussed this. again, the question is, what do we do with them now?
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maybe stop paying them to shoot people rather than putting htem in jail afterwards? would that be a program the left could support? Will? you smug shit?
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Amber says she's not a prison abolitionist because she wants to put Hillary Clinton in jail. that's a Trump argument, right there. Amber's fash, if anyone doubted it.
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Will's just a dipshit who presumably is happy making money and getting high. But Amber is actually fash.
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mariame kaba is unserious and only cares about radical platitudes. meanwhile, amber a'lee frost, millionaire podcaster, is the real pragmatic organizer for change.
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even Matt isn't wiling to go that far, "some of them are serious".
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this is literally an entire "left" podcast trying to delegitimize Black antipolice organizers.
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Amber: "you're agreeing with Reason magazine if you're leaving it at defund the police." defund the police is literally a left program for increasing funding to marginalized communities. do you not know this? are you just lying?
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she's now called Mariame Kaba and policeabolitionists "childish". which seems racist to me.
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the absolute refusal to engage with actual arguments around police abolition while calling others unserious...
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will saying it's too easy to say that the current situation is evil and intolerable. if it's so easy why is your cohost unable to do that?
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Menaker arguing that community based solutions would be worse than our current orgy of imprisonment and violence.
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also whining that speaking this way gets you called a cop, and, dude...
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"the smaller the social unit, the more conservative it tends to be", Amber says, just making shit up, because why the fuck not.
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the best argumentfor the white fragility book is that people like Chapo are terrified of it.
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