At least admit it is a ridiculous garment invented by men for misogynist reasons ..
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I’m not going to criticize something that many women make free, conscious choices to wear because they believe it is an expression of religious piety. You can do that if you like. Have a good evening.
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You're incredibly nieve; you cannot judge the merit of such garments from the viewpoint of the West, and that is what you are doing. Women through pain of punishment or worse death, go out of their way to show how it is not a choice.
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Some choose to wear it, it doesn't erase the fact they make the choice to support a token created by the muslim patriarchy to shame the body of women for a religious sake. Give a SINGLE country where religious veiling has been a synonym of progress for women rights ;)
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They're free to wear, and not to wear, it in OUR Western countries precisely. The majority of muslim countries make veiling compulsory under the law - religious or not. To refuse the criticism of the veil is refusing to hear the voices of underprivileged women in muslim countries
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Muslim women in Western countries have no sense of what it means to live in Muslim countries. They play the game of the Muslim patriarchy by legitimizing its codes.
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Freedom is the right to criticize but this tweet seems to omit a key fact. If it’s not oppressive then why are women freely not allowed to remove?
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You are wise Obi-wan. Why indeed... Nathan means well and he is right that many genuinely wish to wear hijabs, niqab and burqa. But option was effectively removed by fundamentalists in Muslim majority states in 1970's.
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So, the women in Iran risking their lives to protest mandatory hijab are just misinformed Islamophobes, and Nathan knows better. You go, Nathan. Whitesplain and Mansplain to those uppity women.
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Agency? There is no such thing as ‘Islamophibia’ and women are legally required to wear the veil in many countries and socially pressured to at the cost of extreme violence and ostracisation in others.
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Yep, it is worn by "choice", technically. A person "chooses" to wear it to reduce number of beatings by husband/family; rape by other men; public shaming by clerics and women. A smart choice when trapped in this odious culture. Listen to women who are giving you window into this.
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You and other western liberals disregard the ones who are forced. Not just by law but by friends family and society. You turn a cold shoulder to them because you see most muslims as traditionalists. You couldn’t care less for progressive secular muslims. Lost and confused.
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Muslim societies accept, adapt, reject veiling or any other matter according to their particular culture/politics. How anyone chooses to express this has nothing to do with bored people outside their society who pretend they know better.
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It’s not about me knowing better. It’s about listening to secular Muslim women like
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It gets worse than you think. You think you are some kind of superhero because you are going out of your way to “listen”. Admit it. You have your own agenda. These women that you “listen” to simply reinforce that.
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I never said I was a “superhero”. I listen to them the same way id listen to a civil rights activist or an LGBT activist. Again, the fact you are so bothered by it is telling.
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What’s telling is that you waded into a tweet about the veil and insulted the poster as some do-gooder. Yes there are instances when female dress is unfairly defined by men, but that pretty much is the entire fashion industry that comes out of Milan, Paris, London or New York.
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No that’s completely different. Completely different. Pressure on women to look a certain way is not ingrained in our everyday culture the way it is for many Muslim women to wear the veil. Let alone the women who are forced.
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