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The true Sanskrit only speaks in order to speak, for speaking is its joy and essence.

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    1. Σέργιος Χλωρός  🌿‏ @sergioschloros Jul 10

      Here we see the difference between Greek and Italian phonetics. Sophia's τ, κ, π are practically aspirated; sometimes her γ turns to g! In my experience coaching non-native Greek speakers at the chanter's stand, Greek consonants are very hard to grasp.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDMiUPcZst8 …

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    2. Tallis‏ @nastyinmuhtaxi Jul 10
      Replying to @sergioschloros

      What do you think of my reconstructed homeric pronunciation? https://vocaroo.com/i/s1D0eGzjr34H 

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    3. Σέργιος Χλωρός  🌿‏ @sergioschloros Jul 10
      Replying to @nastyinmuhtaxi

      As expected of a native French speaker, that's perhaps the best υ I have ever heard. Per this thread, I would soften τ & κ, especially to contrast with θ & χ. Your ρ, naturally, comes from the throat where in Greek it's from the roof of the mouth, ready to be trilled. 1/3

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    4. Σέργιος Χλωρός  🌿‏ @sergioschloros Jul 10
      Replying to @sergioschloros @nastyinmuhtaxi

      I would not stop quite as long (possibly at all) at the punctuation marks in the text seeing as they reflect editors' tastes, but this is up to each rhapsode to decide. Vowels are good. Pitch accent is there (your acute tends to circumflex at times). 2/3

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    5. Σέργιος Χλωρός  🌿‏ @sergioschloros Jul 10
      Replying to @sergioschloros @nastyinmuhtaxi

      Stress accent is there too, about which the debate rages on, but to my ear it draws away from the meter. This warms my heart; it's been a long time since I've heard something like this. Εὖγε! I'll record my take on this part tomorrow for comparison. 3/3

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    6. Σέργιος Χλωρός  🌿‏ @sergioschloros Jul 10
      Replying to @sergioschloros @nastyinmuhtaxi

      I'm curious, have you read/listened to Stephen G. Daitz at all?

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      Tallis‏ @nastyinmuhtaxi Jul 11
      Replying to @sergioschloros

      Jesus! I just did. I raise my voice by about a fifth on an acute accent, but this guy is literally singing in falsetto.

      9:00 AM - 11 Jul 2018
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        2. Σέργιος Χλωρός  🌿‏ @sergioschloros Jul 11
          Replying to @nastyinmuhtaxi

          😂 Would you believe me if I told you that was more or less his speaking voice? He was my teacher; he's the one who engendered in me the love for Homer. A group of us would get together at his apartment Saturday mornings and go around reading Homer out loud.

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        3. Σέργιος Χλωρός  🌿‏ @sergioschloros Jul 11
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          Admittedly his method was unorthodox: he had levels of reading we'd go through to acquire first the meter then the pitch accent, and he'd want us to exaggerate certain things (pitch, aspirates) because the modern ear isn't as sensitive to them.

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        4. Σέργιος Χλωρός  🌿‏ @sergioschloros Jul 11
          Replying to @sergioschloros @nastyinmuhtaxi

          Level 4 was just reading the text in a sing-song way to get sensitive to the accents. I can still do a passable impression of him!

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        5. Tallis‏ @nastyinmuhtaxi Jul 11
          Replying to @sergioschloros

          Our teacher made us read Homer aloud but never insisted on our pronunciation save for the digammas. He played some Daitz, I just remembered, at some point, to give everyone an idea. People were very confused.

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        6. Σέργιος Χλωρός  🌿‏ @sergioschloros Jul 11
          Replying to @nastyinmuhtaxi

          Poor Prof. Daitz always wanted to incorporate the digammas into the reading, but apparently he was browbeaten by some scholars who insisted it was antique even by Homer's time. Nevertheless, he would urge us to slyly work it in if it was evident it belonged there.

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        7. Tallis‏ @nastyinmuhtaxi Jul 11
          Replying to @sergioschloros

          >it was antique even by Homer's time That's stupid. Sometimes removing the digamma results in loss of meter.

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        8. Σέργιος Χλωρός  🌿‏ @sergioschloros Jul 11
          Replying to @nastyinmuhtaxi

          Exactly, hence his urging to work it in regardless.

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