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Marcin Wichary
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Writing a book about the history of keyboards: http://aresluna.org/shift-happens  · Design manager @figmadesign · Typographer · Occasional speaker · He/him

San Francisco, Calif.
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    1. Josh Pigford‏Verified account @Shpigford 10 May 2018
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      One of the biggest red flags when hiring is seeing many jobs in a short period of time. If you're switching jobs every 12-18 months, we're not the right fit for you.

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    2. Marcin Wichary‏ @mwichary 10 May 2018
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      One of the biggest red flags is hiring managers treating hiring as an algorithm. If you’re reducing candidates to numbers without any context or empathy, you’re not the right fit for me.

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    3. Martin‏ @mochetts 13 May 2018
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      We do exactly the same thing. It’s not an algorithm. If the candidate has 10 job experiences in 10 years then it’s a hopper. But if the candidate has 2 job experiences in 2 years then it’s fine as he/she might be finding the right place. How many times matters a lot.

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    4. Martin‏ @mochetts 13 May 2018
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      If we find someone with 10 job switches in 10 years it shows us that the candidate is after the money instead of the knowledge. To get a better income, learning is 100 times better than switching jobs every year. It’s not a clever decision to do that.

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    5. Martin‏ @mochetts 13 May 2018
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      But don’t get me wrong. Switch jobs, but not every year. Do it every 4. It shows that at least you gave yourself the time to try to grow within the company. Those are my 2 cents.

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    6. Marcin Wichary‏ @mwichary 13 May 2018
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      You still described an algorithm. It’s just a slightly more complicated one. The whole point is that you make a specific assumption about why people switch jobs. There are countless others, already given by people in many examples around the original tweet.

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    7. Martin‏ @mochetts 13 May 2018
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      You also don’t want to hire a manager that invites every single candidate that sends a resume to a personal interview. That would be a huge waste of time therefore your money. You have to find some way of first line filtering given your past experiences.

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    8. Marcin Wichary‏ @mwichary 13 May 2018
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      You are still missing the same point. Don’t use *your* past experiences. It’s a way to perpetuate biases in the industry. Also, you keep going for the most exaggerated scenarios (“invites every single candidate” and “10 jobs in 10 years”). That’s easy. It’s also not very useful.

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    9. Martin‏ @mochetts 13 May 2018
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      Well, it’s also easy to say that you don’t want to hire a manager that it’s doing his best job to keep the hiring process as optimized as possible. It would be a lot less easier if you’d describe how you’d do it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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      Marcin Wichary‏ @mwichary 13 May 2018
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      Modern, inclusive hiring practices that allow you to work smarter, not harder, are not difficult to find. Here’s one: https://medium.engineering/engineering-interviews-refining-our-process-52fbc9510e91 … And since you said “his,” I’d encourage you to read this, too:https://medium.com/@mwichary/three-sites-that-helped-me-understand-sexism-and-feminism-better-1d5f68ba3940 …

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        2. Marcin Wichary‏ @mwichary 13 May 2018
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          Lastly, my recommendation would be to put the URL of the original tweet by Josh in the search box on Twitter, and read through some of the responses. It’s a good way to recognize this as an actual societal issue, rather than limiting it to talking about efficiency.

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        3. Martin‏ @mochetts 13 May 2018
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          This is exactly the answer I was trying to get. We harass someone because everyone's doing it instead of having a proper analytical thought on the comment. We just append ourselves to the masses, throw vague statements to get some likes. That's the real societal issue.

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        1. Martin‏ @mochetts 13 May 2018
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          I said "his" because we are talking about "Josh". Also, unfortunately, in English, "his/he" is gender neutral when talking about a gender unknown person. The link you posted talks about score cards after the candidate had the first interview, but nothing about filtering resumes.

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